Dead men don't talk. Try talking to the likes of John McDaniel and Gerald Glenn. Stupid is as stupid does.
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Dead men don't talk. Try talking to the likes of John McDaniel and Gerald Glenn. Stupid is as stupid does.
Adam in WI
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You're more than welcome to hide in your basement until there's a cure for everything.
Greater risk is taken everyday by everyone who gets in a car. This whole lockdown is sold on the premise that this thing spreads mostly by irresponsible asymptomatic individuals who are ignoring "protocols". Billions of people put trust in total strangers around them everyday when they climb behind the wheel.
Lots of people hold their noses while being fed this garbage. You seem to enjoy the taste.
COVID-19 is already 2.7x the last 5 years' average annual death toll from motor vehicle accidents (including pedestrians). And it's just warming up. Wear your seat belt.
Of course, a significant number of those victims were too old to drive! WH
ronsatspokane
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Good news for the fear mongers. The first case of West Nile virus this year has turned up in New Mexico. Keep those doors locked and those window shades pulled or it'll git ya.
On a side note, the name of that virus is just plain racist. Why are we not hearing a hue and cry from the MSM demanding a name change?
On a side note, the name of that virus is just plain racist. Why are we not hearing a hue and cry from the MSM demanding a name change?
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This (the eased when hospital capacity can afford it part) is becoming the really contentious bit. Most of continental Europe is now starting to do so with even cafes, bars, and flying / travelling to other European holiday areas being allowed now or very shortly. To facilitate a return to something approaching a normal situation especially on public transport, 1 metre or at most 1.5M separation has been adopted.
Meanwhile the UK insists on a full 2 metres (only one of two European countries requiring this) which sees buses and trains limited to 10-20% of normal capacity, restricts travel, does not allow any overnight stay away from home and graciously permits meeting one family member or friend only outdoors with the full 2 metre separation at all times. (My wife is desperate to see our sole grandchild who lives 100 miles away. As I would have drive her there, that means two people already and as the girl is less than a year old, she can hardly make her own way around to meet us
so that's four and very illegal.)If press speculation is to be trusted, all arrivals from outside of the British and Channel islands will require 14 days self-quarantine with a £1,000 fine (initially, unlimited for repeat violators) for those caught outside of the nominated address as of next week. A few people who cannot be sensibly quarantined (eg lorry drivers bringing essential supplies into the country) are exempt.
That's England only - Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland are much more restrictive. For instance, as of the 28th the Scots will be allowed more outdoor exercise and can actually drive (or cycle) 5 miles to get it. Scottish schools won't reopen at all until the start of the autumn term - late August / beginning of September.
However, what the UK government says is one thing, what local authorities and their residents allow is another even in England. We now have a raft of local authorities and tourist boards (now anti-tourist boards it seems) saying 'outsiders are unwanted - stay away!') The prime South-West tourist area (Cornwall, Devon, Dorset) doesn't want any outsiders even as day trippers which is now allowed and police are manning roads to stop incomers, carrying out dawn raids on campervans etc. The Welsh are doing the same. My nearest seaside resort area towns (Yorkshire coast ~ 55 miles from me) have kept their car parks and public toilets locked shut. The latter is a particularly questionable move when government and medical instructions are to be meticulous on personal hygiene. People are going there in large numbers irrespective as we've had unusually high temperatures for the time of year. I suspect that whilst a quarter of the population live in fear and would accept a lockdown that lasted years, another quarter or third has simply had enough and decided the risks no longer justify any restrictions - especially as they were endlessly 'sold' on the hospital capacity / flattening the sombrero scenario / reason that @SGK mentions and which no longer applies. The lid will shortly blow off the pressure cooker I believe.
The hospital system is coping very well - many trusts have now gone a full week without a single death and even care home deaths are dropping rapidly. There are fewer Covid-19 patients in UK hospitals today than at any time since 1st March.
Care homes are now appearing to have been the weakest link in the anti-Covid chain. Most European countries now say that these institutions have produced an abnormal percentage of infections and deaths. I heard a radio interview last week with the head honcho in Guernsey one of the larger Channel Islands nearer France than England, a self-governing part of the UK and with a population of 67,000 with easy to close transport (limited air and sea ferry) links. It has been in effective quarantine / isolation from very early and its per capita death rate is very low as a result. Even here though the majority of deaths came from residents of just two nursing homes and that was despite the island government realising the risks to these institutions much earlier than applied on the UK Mainland and taking appropriate action. It seems that given the nature of this virus and the belated understanding of the significance and numbers of asymptomatic carriers (unlike flu virus outbreaks) that this supremely vulnerable sector has proven very, very difficult to protect. When full data of victims and virus spread are eventually available, I wonder if we'll decide that this one sector tail rather wagged the dog in terms of the epidemic and resulting measures applied to the general population and that's where resources should have been concentrated from day one. (Yeah, I know hindsight is great!)
That also doesn't take into account the issue of very large cities with densely packed populations and reliance on crush-loaded public transport during rush hours. I suspect we'd have the current figures in London and New York no matter what hindsight led arguments are being aired now.
Brians356
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That study doesn't address hyrdochloroquine with zinc as a prophylaxis, rather than just a treatment in the critical care setting. And, it's just one such study. There are others:
https://spectator.org/keeping-america-skeered-trump-hydroxychloroquine/
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Brians356
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Minnesota reached a new daily high of 32 deaths attributed to COVID-19 yesterday, bringing the total to 832. (The previous daily high was 30.) Twenty-eight of the 32 new deaths — 87.5 percent — occurred among residents of long-term care facilities, bringing that total to 663. Eighty-two percent of all deaths attributed to the disease in Minnesota to date have taken place in nursing homes and other assisted-living facilities.
The age breakdown of the new decedents followed the usual pattern. Twelve were in their 90’s, 12 were in their 80’s, six were in their 70’s, one was in his 60’s and one in his 50’s. ... Ninety-eight to 99 percent of all deaths attributed to the disease in Minnesota have occurred among the physically compromised populations in congregate care settings and among others with significant underlying medical conditions, according to the data provided by [MN] officials
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/coronavirus-in-one-state-47.php
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The power hungry government bureaucrats are sure finding their stride!!!!
Denver orders closure of USPS facility that handles mail for all of Colorado, Wyoming
https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/d...of-colorado-wyoming/amp/?anvplayer-autoplay=0
Denver orders closure of USPS facility that handles mail for all of Colorado, Wyoming
https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/d...of-colorado-wyoming/amp/?anvplayer-autoplay=0
Brians356
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The facility was ordered to close immediately until the following conditions are met:
- The facility receives a complete disinfection of all surfaces with an approved COVID-19
disinfectant - COVID-19 control measures are implemented
- Control plans and procedures for how facility will implement with the COVID-19 control
measures and comply
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If you read carefully it notes the facility has not closed since it is an essential service.
Brians356
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I only quoted "The facility was ordered to close immediately" directly from the local KVDR News story. If their own copy contains contradictions, I appreciate you pointing that out!
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Brians356
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Gilead's stock soared after its initial Remdesivir trial press release, then plummeted the next day after several comments about the limited scope of their testing.
PS Sharyl Attkisson gets my vote (if you know what I mean.
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What I was trying to get across was the fact that a city health department was trying to shut down a federal facility on federal land that processes 10 million pieces of mail per day for 2 states in the western US. The USPS did not take kindly to the order and defied it.I only quoted "The facility was ordered to close immediately" directly from the local KVDR News story. If their own copy contains contradictions, I appreciate you pointing that out!
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Brians356
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My club's board has voted to resume new member intake and the required range safety briefings. The Chief RSO has asked the RSOs to sign up for the briefings added to make up for those missed over the last two months. Part of my reply was:
"I'd like to help out with the resumption of safety briefings but:
1. I have to realize that I'm XX years old and at higher risk of dying if I contract COVID-19. In Mississippi, about 6% of people who have contracted the disease have died, most of them over 60.
2. Shooters tend to have a high proportion of belligerent libertarians and tin-foil-hat-wearing conspiracy theorists who aren't going to be told they have to wear a mask, stay 6' apart, etc.
These two points make me very leery of being in the first penguin to take a dive in the ocean."
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