cordless drill and brush

[hoz53]

Oh hell no’ it cleans up great after a going back at with a couple patches of Thorroclean wrapped around a soft nylon brush.
There’s only 514 rounds down this barrel, it shoots really well.

interesting as mine clean up good with butchs, patches and a bronze brush. i wonder wat the difference is?

 

[BoydAllen]

Maybe it’s just the bronze brush treatment. I’m trying go easy on the bronze but it’s not working that well. I’m looking for a happy medium somewhere. Thorroclean on a bore mop works ok and they’re softer.

A friend had a new rifle and fire formed 50 cases to PPC. During the process he cleaned every so often, including bronze brushing, but not a lot of strokes per cleaning. At the time he did not have a bore scope, so he brought it over to my place so that we could take a look. We saw that there was some powder fouling with some thickness, not much in the throat, but starting about 6-8" down the bore. He had been shooting 133. The first thing that I did was put a new bronze brush on one of my rods and had him use it and Butches for quite a few cycles, perhaps 25, to make up what he had not done in previous cleanings. He patched it out and we bore scoped it again. IMO it was clean enough to shoot a group match, not totally bright, but no more than a little color here and there with no apparent thickness. To show him how to get to totally clean, which I explained was not really necessary, we went back to my garage and used some Thorroclean on a patch wrapped around a nylon brush, one of the black ones, not the harder ones. That took the remainder of the fouling out with relative ease. Personally I do not believe that cleaning to that point is needed for any application, but rather getting to a consistent starting point that is 98%. IMO with 133 the key is to clean every 25 rounds or so, and to do a lot of bronze brushing when I clean. Contrary to a few (very few) I have never seen any harm from using a bronze brush. I should add that I use very high quality cleaning rod guides with the bushing that goes on the rod and inserts into the back of the guide. I only use an abrasive if inspection shows that it is needed, and when I do I clean a little and reinspect to determine the minimum number of cycles needed to get the job done.

 

[Steven B]

Try an ultrasonic cleaner?

I've put AR bolts and carriers and pistol parts etc... in the ultrasonic cleaner.

I've got a sonic cleaner but it doesn't work as well. It's just a cheap Harbour Freight unit.

Steven

 

[LVLAaron]

I've got a sonic cleaner but it doesn't work as well. It's just a cheap Harbour Freight unit.

Steven

For what it's worth, a good ultrasonic is expensive. They should have 4-6 transducers. I have a couple of the single transducer hornady/HF units... They're fine for cleaning lube, or a couple of small parts... but if you fill them with 75 pieces of brass, they suffer and dont' do much.

 

[BoydAllen]

No. I suggest that you do what you have to to get to where you need to go. Of course we all want to inflict the least possible damage with our process.

In the short range group game, if you choose to, there is time to clean between each match, which may only involve perhaps eight shots fired, five for record.

On the other hand, the long range games. both bench and F class do not make time for that level of cleaning frequency, also, powders vary greatly in how much fouling they produce and how difficult it is to remove.

Probably the most popular short range group powder is N133, which is in my experience very clean burning. also, the longer you wait to clean, the harder the fouling is to remove. This is similar to the fouling on case necks.

 

[Richard Jones]

I shoot a S&W 617 for Steel Challenge and it gets pretty dirty after 300 rounds. OK, I miss some!

I use an electric drill and chamber brush about every 500 round and it keeps the cylinders nice and clean. It's mush easier than a push/pull brush and patch.

I also just switched to Bore Tech C4 for cleaning the cylinder. Just let it soak for 5 minutes, run a mop though the cylinders and they are clean.

Steven

Love the gangsta C-More!!

 

[JFrank]

interesting as mine clean up good with butchs, patches and a bronze brush. i wonder wat the difference is?

Hoz
Are you confirming with a bore scope or just clean patches ? How many passes with that brush ?

 

[hoz53]

interesting as mine clean up good with butchs, patches and a bronze brush. i wonder wat the difference is?

Hoz
Are you confirming with a bore scope or just clean patches ? How many passes with that brush ?

powers been out allday today. just got restored. i wrote a long drawn out response but couldnt send it. dont know wat happened to it.- i look with teslum bore scope- my hawkeye 90degree tube broke. usually 10 strokes for daily cleaning and more with iosso mabie every 200 rounds, but that is with Osize nylon brush.

also— using N-150- oh yeah - i usually clean every 25 rounds - sometimes every 12 or 13 rounds.

 

[JFrank]

No worries Kim, the topic is polarizing to say the least. A little common sense goes a long ways.
My comp rifle gets cleaned at the end of the day, I don’t need bare metal or early retirement but clean is clean and I can go four cycles on that.
Jim

 

[hoz53]

No worries Kim, the topic is polarizing to say the least. A little common sense goes a long ways.
My comp rifle gets cleaned at the end of the day, I don’t need bare metal or early retirement but clean is clean and I can go four cycles on that.
Jim

yeah- at one point i spent alot more time cleaning but then i asked myself- why am i doing this when many of the big guys spend much less time on it and shoot much better than me? i started following their lead and it has worked for me. it seems keeping them clean makes the daily cleaning much easier. that post by FrankG about the test barrel that lasted 26000 rounds and that the standard test barrel round count is 10000 rounds opened my eyes some to. i think my current and future barrels will last alot longer. LOL

 

[Carl S]

A sensible cleaning regime is normally a good one.no need to go mad with a cleaning rod brushes,drills or whatever one decides to shove down the bore i think more damage is done by cleaning than shooting.a borescope does help.a quality bore guide,solvent,proper fitting patches and brushes.just don't let fouling build up.some match grade barrels clean better than others as we no,but most are good I have found.i had a SSG Police in .243 many moons ago,yes a factory rifle and it was almost impossible to keep clean.patches would come out green for ever and a day,you could have spent a lifetime trying to get it clean.i didn't have a borescope then but it must have been really rough but it shot exceptionally well,thats another story.ive used butche's for years,KG products and I've found bore tech eliminator not to bad.cleaning properly and oftern works for me.