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Alex how do you feel about paste type abrasives as part of routine cleaning? (Iosso)
They have a place, but its not every time. The guys using them every time are shortening the accuracy life of the barrel. You do not want to smooth out the rifling in the lead, you want it nice a sharp. When you do get to the point carbon is getting built up and the brush wont remove it, then an abrasive used carefully is required. But try to keep it out of the throat. Usually the carbon is in front of the throat so dont short stroke the throat. Because we are so anal about keeping track of our touch point all the time, we learned that every time we used iosso the touch point moved .001-.002. And Im only talking like 15-20 short strokes. Barrels looked great but we were pulling them off sooner. And the barrels dont need to be shiny steel to shoot their best anyhow.
 
I'll throw this out there in addition to what Alex said. I believe a clean barrel is a happy barrel so I clean often and regularly. Regular and frequent cleaning usually keeps carbon at bay. As the barrel roughens up it will get copper deposited into the cracks unless care is taken to mitigate the roughness. I use abrasives when I'm well into the life span of the barrel to manage the heat checking not as a replacement for cleaning solvent.
The use of chemicals in conjunction with prolonged soaking/softening is best. When I'm at a match my barrel is always soaking with solvent. That's followed with 5 or 6 strokes of a brass brush and a few patches. You can't clean a barrel in the same amount of time as two clicks of a mouse.
 
I'll throw this out there in addition to what Alex said. I believe a clean barrel is a happy barrel so I clean often and regularly. Regular and frequent cleaning usually keeps carbon at bay. As the barrel roughens up it will get copper deposited into the cracks unless care is taken to mitigate the roughness. I use abrasives when I'm well into the life span of the barrel to manage the heat checking not as a replacement for cleaning solvent.
The use of chemicals in conjunction with prolonged soaking/softening is best. When I'm at a match my barrel is always soaking with solvent. That's followed with 5 or 6 strokes of a brass brush and a few patches. You can't clean a barrel in the same amount of time as two clicks of a mouse.
May I ask which solvents you prefer ?
Thx
Jim
 
@FrankG @Alex Wheeler @DaveTooley

Guys I still struggle trying to get the best cleaning routine without early retirement of a good barrel so I hope you don’t mind a dumb question, but what would you consider average or normal throat erosion per 100 rounds or so with a 6 BRA cartridge ?
Also do you fellas consider the Thorroclean a hard abrasive that advances the throat beyond average?
Thx
Jim
 
I don't worry about that number. I have found that a lot of the time it doesn't translate to the target. I've retuned seating depth in many barrels midlife trying to blame the barrel for a loss in accuracy. Many times I end up about in the same place as the original tune. Then I have to look in the mirror for the problem.
I've never used Thorroclean. Flitz and Iosso here.
 
@FrankG @Alex Wheeler @DaveTooley

Guys I still struggle trying to get the best cleaning routine without early retirement of a good barrel so I hope you don’t mind a dumb question, but what would you consider average or normal throat erosion per 100 rounds or so with a 6 BRA cartridge ?
Also do you fellas consider the Thorroclean a hard abrasive that advances the throat beyond average?
Thx
Jim
Too many variables to give you a number on throat erosion. I really don't measure it at all.

Type of powder will cause different rates of erosion.

Rate of fire.

Cleaning.

Bullets from lot to lot will vary also.

Thorroclean.... from what I understand has Iosso mixed in with it. I myself won't use it. I will say if you use it...patch only...no brush.
 
I shoot a S&W 617 for Steel Challenge and it gets pretty dirty after 300 rounds. OK, I miss some!

I use an electric drill and chamber brush about every 500 round and it keeps the cylinders nice and clean. It's mush easier than a push/pull brush and patch.

I also just switched to Bore Tech C4 for cleaning the cylinder. Just let it soak for 5 minutes, run a mop though the cylinders and they are clean.

Steven
 

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I shoot a S&W 617 for Steel Challenge and it gets pretty dirty after 300 rounds. OK, I miss some!

I use an electric drill and chamber brush about every 500 round and it keeps the cylinders nice and clean. It's mush easier than a push/pull brush and patch.

I also just switched to Bore Tech C4 for cleaning the cylinder. Just let it soak for 5 minutes, run a mop though the cylinders and they are clean.

Steven
Try an ultrasonic cleaner?

I've put AR bolts and carriers and pistol parts etc... in the ultrasonic cleaner.
 
I soaked two hours with butches bore shine today followed by patches then nylon brushes followed by passes with a bronze brush. I have mixed feelings about the out come because quite frankly this doesn’t look very clean to me.
Any body care to weigh in.
 

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I think I remember someone back years ago saying that they used a brass case that had a longer neck than the chambering you were removing the carbon from. They filed notches in the end of the neck like saw teeth and used this to remove the carbon. I don't know if it would work, what do you think?
 

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