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Cooper Update

Pyscodog said:
In a few months Cooper rifles may be just something we talked about in the past. Hope I'm wrong but looks like the way they're headed. I didn't see a single rifle with a wood stock and a 22-250 was the smallest cartridge offered. Lots of big boomers though. We should all send them an email and tell them "thoughts and prayers" and RIP.
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I always really liked hearing from Rick and the others on Saubier.com about their Coopers. I have some Coopers, but I don't get the use out of them like those before me. I have/had to get my experiences through their exploits.

Danny
 
jelenko said:
Were Cooper rifles known to be well made? The reason I'm asking is, as someone mentioned, there isn't a rifle on their site that's less than $4300.
What differentiates a Cooper from Savage or Remington?
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The Montana rifles were very well made. You could get a hand checkered wood stock, very smooth 3 lug action, a huge selection of chamberings and custom options, and choice of single shot or detachable magazine repeater. Most of them are highly accurate, and the standard models sold for under $2k for a long time. A Cooper is at least a notch or two above the nicest model 700 in every way.

That said, I’m not interested in any of the Arkansas offerings. They seem like nice people, though, and I wish them the best.
 
No Wilson here !!!
I got rid of that worm groove, voids, pitted thing!!
This Kreiger is a whole lot better !!!IMG_7291.jpegIMG_7290.jpegmost don’t realize the potential of full bedding the action, and adding pillars-I’m not a wood guy-
So I ordered a B&C stock and the build began-

Wish the M38 would come back or the single shot M21- as they was cartridge specific actions/ or sized to the the smaller cartridge design- makes great everyday rifles-
 
Was very blessed to come across three Montana Varminters at the local Cabelas recently. A 204R, 222, and a 6.8 special. Not sure what possessed me to buy the 6.8, perhaps I thought I would rebarrel it to a 224 Valkyrie if it doesn't like the vmax in 6.8. It will definitely see pd duty in the future. I didn't notice till I got home the 222 had marked on the box end flap "customers wood" and she really is a beauty. BTW my 19-223 has a Pac-Nor and it has taken its share of pds past 500 yards.Was never too happy about Cooper going with Wilson for their barrels always thought for a couple bucks more they could have done better.In spite of Dan Coopers political/ girlfriend missteps I think he sure knew what we wanted. I enjoy my Coopers every time I get to shoot them. I will never forget the first 22ccm I saw at the Harrisburg show in Pa, for me that's when my love affair with the Montana Coopers began.Its sad to me that the NH rep thinks small calibers are only for old men, I knew at a young age the value of small calibers.Perhaps they will make another model 38 down the road,not holding my breath though. I guess the lesson learned here is appreciate what you have when you have it because you never know what the future will bring.

Matt
 
17VLD said:
Was very blessed to come across three Montana Varminters at the local Cabelas recently. A 204R, 222, and a 6.8 special. Not sure what possessed me to buy the 6.8, perhaps I thought I would rebarrel it to a 224 Valkyrie if it doesn't like the vmax in 6.8. It will definitely see pd duty in the future. I didn't notice till I got home the 222 had marked on the box end flap "customers wood" and she really is a beauty. BTW my 19-223 has a Pac-Nor and it has taken its share of pds past 500 yards.Was never too happy about Cooper going with Wilson for their barrels always thought for a couple bucks more they could have done better.In spite of Dan Coopers political/ girlfriend missteps I think he sure knew what we wanted. I enjoy my Coopers every time I get to shoot them. I will never forget the first 22ccm I saw at the Harrisburg show in Pa, for me that's when my love affair with the Montana Coopers began.Its sad to me that the NH rep thinks small calibers are only for old men, I knew at a young age the value of small calibers.Perhaps they will make another model 38 down the road,not holding my breath though. I guess the lesson learned here is appreciate what you have when you have it because you never know what the future will bring.

Matt
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I would love to see a pic of the .222.
 
My Cooper M38 in 20VT is about to see a full week of GS shooting next month with my rat shooting crew. Can't hunt muley's or bull elk any more, so getting out to the rat patch gives me all the trigger time I can handle these days. Gettin' old sucks, good to have 'other outlets' to enjoy my rifles.



My "morning office" while in the outback:



Now besides taking my M38 20VT, it's what other rifles to take. Excellent First World Issues to ponder! ;)

I'll add that as of this morning, no response from NHC as to my questions about small action/small caliber single shot rifles from them being available any time soon. Go figure. The Cooper's I do have are now more important and valuable to me than ever before. Remember the old saying "you didn't know what you had until it was lost"?
 
I'm sure glad I have mine.
2 Jackson squirrels M 57M, 1 22LR,1 17HMR both with Triple A wood and both shoot like crazy.
M 38 Varmints ,17 Hornady Hornet and 2 20 VarTargs, 1 M 21 in 223. All of mine get shot a lot except the 223.
The second VarTarg didn't get shot very much until last fall. Just for the heck of it I decided to shoot it with the load the first one used, 5 shots and the first hole just got slightly larger.
I sure wish Sierra would produce the 1032 soon I'm down to a couple of thousand.
I'm old and won't be buying any NH Coopers. I also miss stopping by the factory and talking to my old friends.
 
17VLD said:
Was very blessed to come across three Montana Varminters at the local Cabelas recently. A 204R, 222, and a 6.8 special. Not sure what possessed me to buy the 6.8, perhaps I thought I would rebarrel it to a 224 Valkyrie if it doesn't like the vmax in 6.8. It will definitely see pd duty in the future. I didn't notice till I got home the 222 had marked on the box end flap "customers wood" and she really is a beauty. BTW my 19-223 has a Pac-Nor and it has taken its share of pds past 500 yards.Was never too happy about Cooper going with Wilson for their barrels always thought for a couple bucks more they could have done better.In spite of Dan Coopers political/ girlfriend missteps I think he sure knew what we wanted. I enjoy my Coopers every time I get to shoot them. I will never forget the first 22ccm I saw at the Harrisburg show in Pa, for me that's when my love affair with the Montana Coopers began.Its sad to me that the NH rep thinks small calibers are only for old men, I knew at a young age the value of small calibers.Perhaps they will make another model 38 down the road,not holding my breath though. I guess the lesson learned here is appreciate what you have when you have it because you never know what the future will bring.

Matt
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Matt do you remember Tom's display of Coopers and Cascades. Shame his shop had to burn down.
 
How many left-handed Coopers are out there?
I know when I was looking for a left-handed Cooper (I couldn't afford a new one) it took quite some time to find a mdl 21 and 38, years in fact.
Saying that it wasn't like I was combing through everywhere every day.
 
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