California Shooters - What Will You Do if Newsom Measure Passes?

[potatoe]

Back to the original question. LEAVE CALIFORNIA! I left Illinois in 1996 over that stupid FOID card thing which does absolutely nothing. I moved to Iowa. I can get a CCW permit and pay a minuscule portion of the $600 it costs in Illinois. Grow a set and leave, let the Liberals have the state, it will collapse under the weight of it's own corruption.

+1, I'd really look into moving. I work in MD but refuse to live there. Sorry for derailing the thread

 

[Raythemanroe]

If anyone hasn't figured it out, Someone here is a flamming liberal. He doesn't care about any gun laws that don't effect his personal interests.. He feels he can vote for the 2nd amendment's enemies because they haven't actually taken our rights completely yet (the ones that matter to him)..He must have a stronger fear of Global Warming, Same sex marriage or Welfare reform.. JMHO..Not that they are anything wrong with that...



Ray

 

[Joe Salt]

JRS What I mean is you sound like this is never going to happen that they will not take or guns and tell you that you have no right to say what you want. Its already happening!
Open your eyes. And don't say shooting and hunting won't help in a gun fight, what do you think leaders in Vietnam were looking for on patrols! HUNTERS. a lot of the ones that didn't have that going for them never made it back. That's why I could never understand Search and destroy. It got you killed, Sit and wait.

Joe Salt

 

[LHSmith]

If anyone hasn't figured it out, Someone here is a flamming liberal. He doesn't care about any gun laws that don't effect his personal interests.. He feels he can vote for the 2nd amendment's enemies because they haven't actually taken our rights completely yet (the ones that matter to him)..He must have a stronger fear of Global Warming, Same sex marriage or Welfare reform.. JMHO..Not that they are anything wrong with that...



Ray

Exactly. Actually he is head Kool Aid server at Hillary rallies.

 

[Raythemanroe]

Not that they are anything wrong with that..lol



Ray

 

[Joe Salt]

Is she the one that helped arm ISIS with all of Kadafi's Weapons! But it couldn't have been! She is the smartest woman in the world. Wonder how else she went from Broke to a Billionaire.LOL

Joe Salt

 

[22BRGUY]

Don't know if any of you have seen or heard this interview or what if anything is valid about it but it does raise some questions I think. Please feel free to give your opinions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUDqRJK9Vd8

I suppose you could make that determination by opening the caskets of the 20 children and 6 adults.

I appreciate and respect your reply and opinion, but rather than going to extremes, why can't we just get some simple basic questions answered such as why no ambulances, paramedics, or doctors were allowed in the school in the first hour of the event? Law enforcement are not doctors and have no authority to declare anyone absolutely deceased.
I certainly feel compassion for any that have suffered tragedies, but in this case some simple questions it would seem to me, should be easily answered.

My guess would be that law enforcement was concerned about whether there was additional shooters in or on the school property. Do you really think it would be wise to subject additional lives to a killer/killers? Cops don't "declare" someone dead. You can look-up the death certificates with vital statistics if you question whether it happened. It's time for people in this country to move on from the paranoia.

Joe Salt: With, or against you, meaning what? That I should live in fear, as you choose to do? That I should carry a concealed weapon to feel safer? Care to expound on your statement?

No amount of hunting/shooting experience is going to prepare you for a gunfight, Changeling. Your statement evidently comes from zero military experience. Those animals you are hunting, and the targets you are shooting at, are not armed with weapons, shooting at you!

Respectfully sir, so then we are expected to believe that all of the "Very Professional" LEO's of local, county, state and federal agencies including Homeland Security, and highly trained swat teams were unable to secure this building for some eleven hours???? That would indicate to me that a lot of people need to find a different line of work.
It sounds like all of these 20 innocent little children and the 6 adults were then just left there to die because the LEO's were afraid of "possible" other threats?? And....how was it possible that all of the children and teachers were declared dead within 8 minutes of LEO's entering the building?

 

[snert]

uh, because seeing is believing and they were obviously dead? take off the tinfoil

 

[people]

 

[people]

 

[Changeling]

Hi 22BRGUY. I was thinking the very things you said after watching the video ( and more). However you did a great job of replying 8).

 

[people]

Fighting back is easy when it comes to it. This is why the dimocrats want your sniper rifles. Oh I ment bench rest.

Fun fact. Everyone thinks the tree city USA program was to grow trees.

 

[people]

A rose by any other name...

 

[people]

What are you talking about?

 

[Raythemanroe]

A rose by any other name... Facts are you are willing to sell out everyone else as long as I get to "keep mine". So much for your kids and grandchildren.

He is right about one thing. Left and Right are just different sides of the same cancer infecting America. Granted the Right is not actively seeking to remove due process and your firearm freedoms. So there is that.

One cannot be or vote democrat and be pro firearm. They are mutually exclusive.

You are entitled to your opinion, however, you aren't entitled to make up your own facts. This is your Kool-Aid suppliers in action: [FACT] "On Thursday, December 4, 2015, Senate Republicans voted against barring suspected terrorists, felons and the mentally ill from getting guns. The decision was made with input from the NRA". I can see why you think you need to be armed ??? That is a real FACT!

JRS, This is complete and utter BS!!!!! The reason the senate voted against barring names on the no-fly list from legally purchasing guns is they are zero previsions on who, why, how many or how long they can be stripped of their 2nd amendment rights.. MEANING, this administration could (fully intends to) at will block you from purchasing guns.. I suspect a liberal troll among us...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSKXmHD8ocM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6X0aKVNJ6I

It would be a dream come true for Obama if he could just add a name to the NO gun list... What a joke some people who claim to own guns are..


Ray

 

[people]

What rights have we given away, Joe? I have listened to "they're going to take our guns away" for more years than I care to remember. The 2nd Amendment remains intact, and my guns remain in my possession. I refuse to live in fear. Of course, the NSA had to snoop into our private lives, due to us interfering in the affairs of other countries. What goes around…. comes around.

Full autos, sound supressors just to name two.

 

[22BRGUY]

uh, because seeing is believing and they were obviously dead? take off the tinfoil

Snert, I have the highest respect and admiration for all of the LEO's and the job they do and the dedication they have to serving the people....but that is not what I'm talking about in my post. I'm talking about TRUTH.....which seems like many people either don't want to see or are afraid to look for or perhaps are somehow rewarded to subvert and deny.....not pointing to anyone here on this site.

If an LEO was in a court room facing a bereaved family and a jury, that was wondering why no one called for medical help for a loved one and the LEO said "seeing is believing and they were obviously dead", I'm sure the judge would bang the gavel and say "Well that settles it, we can all go home now"...............NOT!!!!

If calling me a tinfoil for seeking the truth, then I accept that title with honor.

 

[Lightload]

JRS What I mean is you sound like this is never going to happen that they will not take or guns and tell you that you have no right to say what you want. Its already happening!
Open your eyes. And don't say shooting and hunting won't help in a gun fight, what do you think leaders in Vietnam were looking for on patrols! HUNTERS. a lot of the ones that didn't have that going for them never made it back. That's why I could never understand Search and destroy. It got you killed, Sit and wait.

Joe Salt

When I was in Viet Nam, they asked for volunteers to board and search vessels looking for VC, guns, ammo, etc. I was married and had a child at home so I did not volunteer. When the boarding party lists came out, I was on it. Because of my hunting and shooting background I qualified expert in both Rifle and Pistol. It was also apparent that I knew my way around firearms during our onboard training sessions. In the end I got "volunteered".

 

[Joe Salt]

JRS Then my idea is that if you come to this country, you should not be able to own a gun for the 21years. I had to wait that long before I could get a pistol permit! Would that work for you? I had to prove myself and stay out of trouble for that long before they trusted me. And if they get caught with a gun DEPORTATION AND NEVER RETURN!

Joe Salt

 

[Joe Salt]

LightLoad and thank you for your services! I was one of the luckier ones that didn't get called, but my nephew told me that's what he was asked.

Joe Salt