California Shooters - What Will You Do if Newsom Measure Passes?

[jimcasey01]

Ray,
According to your logic, anyone for what ever can choose who to "go after" any one who might do wrong. Should we arrest all white males who purchase ammo or firearms as they leave the gun shop, as white males do shoot people. Should the police be watching liquor stores, because by purchasing liquor, you might in the future drive drunk and kill an innocent person? You own bomb making material if you reload, should you be arrested for plotting terrorist acts? The answer to all of those statements is no. The reason, DUE PROCESS. Don't spout off about rights/wrongs and what should be done, until you have educated yourself about the matters, and our Constitution. Anyone who does that comes across as be ignorant, just like Hillary/Obama supporters, sheep in human clothing who lack any reason or logic.

 

[jimcasey01]

Walking into Mosques maybe constitutional so is our freedom to be ignorant..

Ray

Ray,
Let me commend you on exercising your guaranteed freedoms.

 

[Raythemanroe]

Jim, is it unconstitutional to observe and comment about a religious mindset? One that produces the majority of the terror the world is seeing? When the said religion teaches it is perfectly okay to decieve and lie to nonbeliever's..I and the post before yours has a constitunional right to speach.. Maybe if you don't like that you shouldn't frequent a forum and find a different place to reside as you put it earlier.. Them is ur werds


Ray

 

[GerryM]

The problem is no accountability'
Politicians have made them selves above the law.


WE the people best wake up and hold them accountable.

It obvious the agenda is to total prevent the people from being able to defend them selves.
Jerry Brown Barbara Boxer and that whole bunch of scyco are putting YOUR lives at risk.
Then the events of today When will they wake up .
WE have similar politicians of that that here in New Yuck also.
Cuomo Shumer Gillibrand and republicans and democrats from DOWN State are ruling New York state and ignoring our constitution and bill of rights.

Both Federal and state Lets all wake up in the coming election cycle and vote these socialist out of office
Maybe we all should start a grass routes campaign to get rid of the lice that have infected our governments.

 

[GerryM]

Ray your right
I have this to say
In spite of what Obama said
THIS IS A CHRISTIAN NATION founded on the Christian and Jewsh religions.
I could care less what Obama said
Hes a Bum living off the good grace of the American people and deserves to be Impeached

I'm sitting here wondering how and why Congress has not already Impeached him.

Obama is testing the waters to see just how much he can get away with,

The next President sure will have his hands full trying to correct Obama,s mess

I wonder how many years it's going to take seeing how in efficient both houses of congress are.

How many laws that Liberals have passed will be repealed?
I doubt any They are in a quagmire of politics and it's politics as usual.

 

[Raythemanroe]

GerryM, I agree


Ray

 

[Raythemanroe]

If a person pledges elegance to ISIS, should that at least warrant an investigation? NSA, IRS and other agencies just for targeting conservatives?



Ray

 

[snert]

Back to the OP...

Most would ignore it like the vast majority of the former owners of certain firearms in NY.

 

[GerryM]

Yes I know about JOHN Adams opinion.
They were non secular Christians.
All of the fathers were christian or jewish.
They just didn't want an organized religion controlled by a secular state and by the KING.

Jefferson had his own Bible
sorry i guess I'm a Crusader Like my ancestors

 

[Lapua40X]

... assuming that is the case, how will you respond?

Establish residency in Nevada :

 

[Raythemanroe]

Mohamed's Sharia law and the Constitution "can't" be honestly practiced together.. I personally have zero compassion for a people that honestly believe that it is their "God's" word to lie and deceit the non believer's and if they can't be conformed to Islam then off with their heads.. Explain how that can even be excepted by a constitutionalist? It is conform or die, they are no freedoms what so ever in that religion...Believer's of Sharia law is freedoms enemy And a brain fart from being terrorist's with example after example..


Ray

 

[GerryM]

For what its worth it really meant tolerance of religion.
The country was founded on jewish and christian principal. The 10 commandments was the foundation of the morality of the nation.

At the time most people we christians and Jews, a smidgen of the others out side of mainstream .
Tolerated but not really a part of society. a few agnostics also But well out of society.
Name one muslim who was a founding father or helped draft the bill of right or any part of the constitution.
I refuse to even consider shara laws being part of the USA
Any Religion that preaches Kill thy neighbor if they don't covert to Being a Muslim , sure isn't a religion of Peace
Get the boats ready and send them back. I refuse to be subservant to the muslim way of thinking
I am a soldier of Christ

 

[Raythemanroe]

For what its worth it really meant tolerance of religion.
The country was founded on jewish and christian principal. The 10 commandments was the foundation of the morality of the nation.

At the time most people we christians and Jews, a smidgen of the others out side of mainstream .
Tolerated but not really a part of society. a few agnostics also But well out of society.
Name one muslim who was a founding father or helped draft the bill of right or any part of the constitution.
I refuse to even consider shara laws being part of the USA
Any Religion that preaches Kill thy neighbor if they don't covert to Being a Muslim , sure isn't a religion of Peace
Get the boats ready and send them back. I refuse to be subservant to the muslim way of thinking
I am a soldier of Christ

I'm not aware of any of the Founding Fathers as practicing Muslims, nor were any of them Jews. As a matter of FACT, some of them offered some pretty derogatory statements about the Jews. There is close to 4 million Muslims in the U.S. I have yet to have one try to convert me, but have had many JW's ringing my doorbell ;D

JW's, Christianity's ISIS...lol..Murdered by a thousand knocks..lol


Ray

 

[Raythemanroe]

John Adams did indeed own a Quran, the copy he owned contained the following in the preface:

This book is a long conference of God, the angels, and Mahomet, which that false prophet very grossly invented, sometimes he introduceth God, who speaketh to him, and teacheth him his law, then an angel, among the prophets, and frequently maketh God to speak in the plural. … Thou wilt wonder that such absurdities have infected the best part of the world, and wilt avouch, that the knowledge of what is contained in this book, will render that law contemptible ...


Ray

 

[snert]

I guess I am just glad the JW's don't come back later after I tell them no thanks, bearing a knife...

Back to the OP please....

 

[Raythemanroe]

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people”. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

– John Adams

“Posterity! You will never know how much it cost the present Generation to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven, that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it.”

– John Adams

“But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.”

– John Adams

“Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all his laws.”

– John Adams

“Because power corrupts, society’s demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.”

– John Adams

“It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished. But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, “whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,” and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever.”

– John Adams

”Without religion this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company, I mean Hell.”

– John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, Apr. 19, 1817.


Ray

 

[Joe Salt]

JRS and who ever, when they come to covert you are you going to say AllI ack bar or what ever it is. Or are you going to be a real man and let them cut your head of because you won't convert. There is nothing in our Constitution that says we let religion that preaches hate into this country! None of this crap would have happened in the countries earlier years. I don't know about you but I'm disgusted the way my Country treats me for owning guns and I haven't done a thing. So people better smarten up before its to late.

Joe Salt

 

[Raythemanroe]

To answer the OP's original post,"Do NOT comply"...


Ray

 

[Lapua40X]

Can somebody explain how we got to a comparative religions discussions amidst the concern for California legislation. Wow!!! Talk about hijacking a thread ................
Did I miss a segue somewhere in here?

 

[people]

To answer the OP's original post,"Do NOT comply"...


Ray

You darn right. Fight it with everything they can.