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BERGER 20 Cal 55gr Bullets

jcm24m

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I will be posting for sale 1000 Berger 55gr 20 cal next week when I get home from vacation. I’m just checking to see if there is still any interest in these bullets.
 
How twisty of a barrel do they require?? I don't get out much, but I didn't even know there was such a thing. jd
 
I have never shot them in any 20 caliber rifle, so I will have someone else answer that question who has shot them from experience.
 
I just popped on to the Berger site, and they don't show them. Sumpthin new?? jd

No - sumpthin discontinued. They go back to the period when there was a lot of interest in 17 and 20-cals for varmint-hunting including several wildcats. (Todd Kindler and Small Caliber News, The Terrific Twenties etc)

How twisty of a barrel do they require??

At the time it was introduced (1990s?), Berger said 8 twist. Since then, optimal Sg value has risen from the once-recommended 1.4 to 1.5. 8-twist gives 1.4 at sea level / 59-deg F at 3,000 fps MV. To achieve 1.5 at this MV and in the same environment, you need 1 in 7.5-inch.
 
No - sumpthin discontinued. They go back to the period when there was a lot of interest in 17 and 20-cals for varmint-hunting including several wildcats. (Todd Kindler and Small Caliber News, The Terrific Twenties etc)



At the time it was introduced (1990s?), Berger said 8 twist. Since then, optimal Sg value has risen from the once-recommended 1.4 to 1.5. 8-twist gives 1.4 at sea level / 59-deg F at 3,000 fps MV. To achieve 1.5 at this MV and in the same environment, you need 1 in 7.5-inch.
Thanks Laurie. That puts me out of the game. jd
 
I thought I was getting crazy when I ordered my barrel with 1-11. So far I haven't tried anything but 32 gr., but I'd like to go heavier. jd
 
Doesn't Berger list the barrel twist needed on their box ? somewhere around 1/9 should work fine.
The b.c.changed when the suggested twist did as well. They both work very well in my 9 twist Dasher.
 

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I cannot figure out why Berger ever recommended a 7 twist.
Me neither.I checked with them a few years ago and asked what twist rate for the 55 gr. with a 20 Dasher. They told me a 7.5 twist. So I went with a 7.5 twist and the bullets came apart before they reached the target. They made excuses with me for over a year and ended up doing nothing to help me out. Expensive lesson for me. Don't listen to Berger. Listen to the guys shooting the bullet with sucess.
 
As mentioned already, Grafs does a bulk order of these bullets usually once per year. I also agree that 1-9” twist is correct when using an appropriate cartridge (BR case or larger IMO). When these bullets are available the idea is to get a lifetime supply and then never worry about supply again.
 
Me neither.I checked with them a few years ago and asked what twist rate for the 55 gr. with a 20 Dasher. They told me a 7.5 twist. So I went with a 7.5 twist and the bullets came apart before they reached the target. They made excuses with me for over a year and ended up doing nothing to help me out. Expensive lesson for me. Don't listen to Berger. Listen to the guys shooting the bullet with sucess.
Tell more about the 20 dasher
 

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