Benchrest style 22lr build

[22vartarg]

Trying to come with a 22lr build for non sanctioned local matches. Would prefer a single shot action and a 24-26” heavy barrel 1.2 or 1.1”. Shooting at 50 & 100 yards. So far I have come up with 2 options. Order a vudoo barreled action with Bartlein BR contour (might be smaller diameter) and get a revolution 3” benchrest stock from Urban Rifleman or get a 2500x action and send it to a local smith to have a barrel put on and try to find a stock for it ( not really wanting a true BR stock). Thought, suggestions or did I miss another option.

 

[10XSHOOTER]

I have a new RBLP Vudoo waiting for a barrel. Jerimiah Mohr is going to put a 1.2 diameter 3 grove Muller on it when he gets back from Alaska. I want it5 to be 25 - 26" long. It's going into a Revolution stock for now.

 

[Mt.Boy]

I have a new RBLP Vudoo waiting for a barrel. Jerimiah Mohr is going to put a 1.2 diameter 3 grove Muller on it when he gets back from Alaska. I want it5 to be 25 - 26" long. It's going into a Revolution stock for now.

Been hearing a lot of good about those 3 groves Jeremiah is using

 

[butchlambert]

I have a new RBLP Vudoo waiting for a barrel. Jerimiah Mohr is going to put a 1.2 diameter 3 grove Muller on it when he gets back from Alaska. I want it5 to be 25 - 26" long. It's going into a Revolution stock for now.

You may want to reconsider the 1.2" barrel diameter.

 

[10XSHOOTER]

You may want to reconsider the 1.2" barrel diameter.

Why

 

[butchlambert]

Why

Have you checked on what the good guys use?

 

[NZ_Fclass]

Why not an Anschutz or Walther action?

 

[10XSHOOTER]

Why not an Anschutz or Walther action?

They do not make a Right Bolt Left port actions. I have a Anzchutz 54 MS gun now.

Have you checked on what the good guys use?

Butch. lately I have been reading and seeing good luck with both a .900 barrel and the 1.2 barrels. The 1.2 barrels are not needing a tuner on them from what I've seen so far.
I have a Turbo that is RBLP with a Shilen ratchet and Diorio tuner also

 

[butchlambert]

I have the equipment but not the skill. A KK300 Walther, a 1913 Anschutz, and a 2500X. I have a .900 and a .920 with tuners for the 2500X and factory barrels on the other two. I understand your thinking, but have seen none that have been competitive with a large diameter barrel without a tuner.
Good luck with it.

 

[TRSR8]

They do not make a Right Bolt Left port actions. I have a Anzchutz 54 MS gun now.

Butch. lately I have been reading and seeing good luck with both a .900 barrel and the 1.2 barrels. The 1.2 barrels are not needing a tuner on them from what I've seen so far.
I have a Turbo that is RBLP with a Shilen ratchet and Diorio tuner also

For true BR rifles shot in matches nobody uses one that big…..nobody.
Also, since the entire planet uses .900” with a tuner, your chances of a good blank are higher

 

[Tony K Harper]

Been hearing a lot of good about those 3 groves Jeremiah is using

I didn’t know there were any of the 3 grooves out there yet. If they are out there what have you heard and who did you hear it from.
I have two on the way and can’t wait to compare them with Dan’s current offerings.
If the comparison has already been made please share.

I would also like to add to the thick barrel vs thinner barrel conversation. For me, and maybe just me, it is really hard to tune a thick barrel. It is much easier to tell when an .850-.900 barrel is in tune. Many have said when they add a tuner to a thick barrel it did not shoot any better. Which is the same as I have found. But what that means is the barrel wasn’t really tuned with the tuner and certainly wasn’t tuned without one. When you add a tuner to the thinner barrel’s it becomes fairly easy to tell when it is tuned.
It is kinda like when we had 8 or 9 different lot numbers of ammo to test and after testing you still could not pick the right one to buy. The reality of the situation is none of it was really good ammo. When you are in tune you should know it and when you find killer ammo you should know it.
If none of this makes sense just disregard.
Good luck with however you choose to go.
TKH

 

[BowChamp]

I didn’t know there were any of the 3 grooves out there yet. If they are out there what have you heard and who did you hear it from.
I have two on the way and can’t wait to compare them with Dan’s current offerings.
If the comparison has already been made please share.

I would also like to add to the thick barrel vs thinner barrel conversation. For me, and maybe just me, it is really hard to tune a thick barrel. It is much easier to tell when an .850-.900 barrel is in tune. Many have said when they add a tuner to a thick barrel it did not shoot any better. Which is the same as I have found. But what that means is the barrel wasn’t really tuned with the tuner and certainly wasn’t tuned without one. When you add a tuner to the thinner barrel’s it becomes fairly easy to tell when it is tuned.
It is kinda like when we had 8 or 9 different lot numbers of ammo to test and after testing you still could not pick the right one to buy. The reality of the situation is none of it was really good ammo. When you are in tune you should know it and when you find killer ammo you should know it.
If none of this makes sense just disregard.
Good luck with however you choose to go.
TKH

What are you hoping to see from the 3 groove barrel?

Or, are you just wanting to see if there is something to see?

Just my thoughts......
As to the thick or thin barrel with tuners. I've seen several shooters express the desire to use a thick barrel so as not to need a tuner. Seems to be so much hocus pocus surrounding tuners that new shooters try and shy away from them.
What you described about thinner barrels showing a tune easier was my takeaway on the research I did on the subject.

Thanks

 

[BowChamp]

Trying to come with a 22lr build for non sanctioned local matches. Would prefer a single shot action and a 24-26” heavy barrel 1.2 or 1.1”. Shooting at 50 & 100 yards. So far I have come up with 2 options. Order a vudoo barreled action with Bartlein BR contour (might be smaller diameter) and get a revolution 3” benchrest stock from Urban Rifleman or get a 2500x action and send it to a local smith to have a barrel put on and try to find a stock for it ( not really wanting a true BR stock). Thought, suggestions or did I miss another option.

I have personal experience with 4 Vudoo barreled actions, three have Shilen barrels and one has a Benchmark barrel. All four shoot very well. The Vudoo will give you more options for a not so true benchrest stock if that's not what you want. I shot mine for about a year in a MDT Rem. 700 short action chassis. It now sits in a true benchrest stock.
One of our shooters had a Vudoo barreled action with a Bartlein blank on order but things didn't work out and he never received it. I was really looking forward to trying it out. As fate would have it, he ended up with a full custom Stiller Trident action build with a Shilen barrel. It shoots very well also.

I don't think you would go wrong with a custom 2500X at all.

 

[Explorer1]

Trying to come with a 22lr build for non sanctioned local matches. Would prefer a single shot action and a 24-26” heavy barrel 1.2 or 1.1”. Shooting at 50 & 100 yards. So far I have come up with 2 options. Order a vudoo barreled action with Bartlein BR contour (might be smaller diameter) and get a revolution 3” benchrest stock from Urban Rifleman or get a 2500x action and send it to a local smith to have a barrel put on and try to find a stock for it ( not really wanting a true BR stock). Thought, suggestions or did I miss another option.

I'm a novice in this world and I shoot a Time Precision with a Shilen barrel. While I like the 2500x, I'd suggest looking for a proven used rifle and learn what you really like plus learn the 22 LR ammo situation. Lots of people at matches are open to answering questions and offering their thoughts.

 

[VLNBYR]

TKH....You have a fundamental error in your thinking, in reality none of it has to make ANY SENSE to you, it only has to make sense to the OP.

 

[Tim Slater]

They do not make a Right Bolt Left port actions. I have a Anzchutz 54 MS gun now.

Walther's KK500 actually is truly ambidextrous: the receiver has both right and left ports, and the bolt can be set to either RH or LH use by removing and reversing the handle.

A KK500 might not meet your needs in other ways, but it can be loaded with the left hand whole the right works the bolt.

 

[Todd Earhart]

Before benchrest my kids raced karts. There was several winning chassis manufacturers. All I looked for in a chassis was when I made a change in set up, did it effect lap times. As a barrel diameter increases the less seen affect of the tuner adjustment. Me personally, if I have a choice of above or below .900 barrel, it would be below.
Todd

 

[Tony K Harper]

Been hearing a lot of good about those 3 groves Jeremiah

TKH....You have a fundamental error in your thinking, in reality none of it has to make ANY SENSE to you, it only has to make sense to the OP.

John,

If it didn't make sense to me, I wouldn't have said it. My point was what I said may not make sense to every reader and apparently it didn't.

TKH

 

[10XSHOOTER]

I didn’t know there were any of the 3 grooves out there yet. If they are out there what have you heard and who did you hear it from.
I have two on the way and can’t wait to compare them with Dan’s current offerings.
If the comparison has already been made please share.

I would also like to add to the thick barrel vs thinner barrel conversation. For me, and maybe just me, it is really hard to tune a thick barrel. It is much easier to tell when an .850-.900 barrel is in tune. Many have said when they add a tuner to a thick barrel it did not shoot any better. Which is the same as I have found. But what that means is the barrel wasn’t really tuned with the tuner and certainly wasn’t tuned without one. When you add a tuner to the thinner barrel’s it becomes fairly easy to tell when it is tuned.
It is kinda like when we had 8 or 9 different lot numbers of ammo to test and after testing you still could not pick the right one to buy. The reality of the situation is none of it was really good ammo. When you are in tune you should know it and when you find killer ammo you should know it.
If none of this makes sense just disregard.
Good luck with however you choose to go.
TKH

Tony, Talked with Jeremiah Mohr. He told me he could get the 3 groove by the end of May from Dan. Am just going to try one. If it don't shoot. Will go to a .900 barrel on it.
Am still planning on sending you the Turbo this fall for a new Chamber in the Shilen Ratchet Barrel.

 

[10XSHOOTER]

I have personal experience with 4 Vudoo barreled actions, three have Shilen barrels and one has a Benchmark barrel. All four shoot very well. The Vudoo will give you more options for a not so true benchrest stock if that's not what you want. I shot mine for about a year in a MDT Rem. 700 short action chassis. It now sits in a true benchrest stock.
One of our shooters had a Vudoo barreled action with a Bartlein blank on order but thing didn't work out. I was really looking forward to trying it out. As fate would have it, he ended up with a full custom Stiller Trident action build with a Shilen barrel. It shoots very well also.

I don't think you would go wrong with a custom 2500X at all.

I have a Custom Turbo with a .900 Shilen Ratchet on it right now also.

I have personal experience with 4 Vudoo barreled actions, three have Shilen barrels and one has a Benchmark barrel. All four shoot very well. The Vudoo will give you more options for a not so true benchrest stock if that's not what you want. I shot mine for about a year in a MDT Rem. 700 short action chassis. It now sits in a true benchrest stock.
One of our shooters had a Vudoo barreled action with a Bartlein blank on order but thing didn't work out. I was really looking forward to trying it out. As fate would have it, he ended up with a full custom Stiller Trident action build with a Shilen barrel. It shoots very well also.

I don't think you would go wrong with a custom 2500X at all.

I have a Custom Turbo with a Shilen Ratchet barrell .900 right now.