Barrel without Crown

[Downhill]

+1 to what Ggmac stated. Have used a Lee case trimming tool to crown also. Made a recessed crown like a factory Remington.

 

[MClark]

i have heard many say the crown is not important on rifles, can use the brass bolt, chamfer tool etc.
I don't listen to them, it doesn't matter if it is a rusty ol' 22 or a varmint rifle I put a proper crown. I use a tiny boring bar kept exceptionally sharp..

M

 

[KMart]

+1 to what Ggmac stated. Have used a Lee case trimming tool to crown also. Made a recessed crown like a factory Remington.

A friend of mine does the same thing. But then again, he uses Dollar Store flip flops for recoil pads and laminates wood from old pallets to make into gun stocks.....and they turn out surprisingly well.

 

[Ggmac]

A friend of mine does the same thing. But then again, he uses Dollar Store flip flops for recoil pads and laminates wood from old pallets to make into gun stocks.....and they turn out surprisingly well.

Do I know you , your description is ME !
I've up graded from flip flops to harbor freight snap together floor covering , the foam stuff .
And only use pallets if the birch furniture plywood isn't available. They just hate me when I beat them at the range with old uglies.

 

[alinwa]

A friend of mine does the same thing. But then again, he uses Dollar Store flip flops for recoil pads and laminates wood from old pallets to make into gun stocks.....and they turn out surprisingly well.

Holey Koww that's a great idea! I went out and spent like 3.49 plus tax for a steenking foam rubber mousepad to cut up and make recoil pads and flipflops is 'WAYYY better!

Actually, it's a long story. We acquired a bunch of H&R .410 singleshot Toppers 10-15yrs ago for our Hunter Ed program. Since we hold classes at my house and on my range we'd sometimes use these same guns on the weekends for liddle kids to shoot clays. Weighted stocks, some cut down to like 9" LOP, mooshy recoil pads. Just fun little guns for teeensy 30-40lb children..... then the political climate changed and the state in their infinite wisdom gave us two choices, either DONATE our guns to the goobermint or switch to their state-issued 20 gauges.

I needed me some kiddie shottyguns......

A few trips to the various pawnshops in the off-season netted me a handful of 12ga Toppers and NEF'ish guns but of course these kick like CRAZY. Even for adults.

But I had a plan.

In a few evenings playing around on the MEC my 12yrold daughter and myself made up a seriously kewl 'Kiddie Load'....Using cotton balls and 1/2oz of 8 shot we turned those 12 gauges into .410's!

Then I spun 'em up on the lathe, trimmed the barrels and fitted them for choke tubes, chopped the stocks down to 'chort-'chort and layered the foam rubber on the butts.

Now we've got .410 equivalent's that'll break a clay at 50yds, for pennies a round.

But man, I coulda' saved nearly a dollar per gun using that flipflop idea!

Ohh well, live and learn

 

[JohnKielly]

But man, I coulda' saved nearly a dollar per gun using that flipflop idea!

.... particular if you beachcombed them.

 

[Stan Taylor]

We'll improvise overcome and adapt I wish I would of known about them flops.

 

[Handi204]

Well while near Inverness FL I found a local gunsmith to cut my Savage barrels and crown them. Took one day and $70.00 for both with an 11 degree crown.
Now to get home to change them out.
By the way the shop is HNR located in Inverness FL good people to deal with.

 

[spitfire_er]

Here's a video I made a while back on how close you can get a crown by hand. I did it by eye with a sqaure on the outside of a tapered barrel, but if I would have taken a little more time I'm sure it could have gotten better, but still not good enough for a high quality rifle.

The crowning starts at about 2:30 if you wanted to skip the boring stuff.

 

[Prose]

Did a field cut/crown on a rifle that shoots better than half moa. Shot 3/4 moa afterwards. When I brought it in the smith said that I did a really good job for using a hacksaw and chucked screwhead, but after professional recrown it shoots better than 1/2 moa.

 

[284winner]

About 20 years back a well know shooting personality experimented with velocity and accuracy variation with a Ruger 10-22. He cut an inch off the barrel and retested multiple times. After 5 or 6 in., he got tired of removing the barrel for lathe recrowning and started cutting it off square with a hacksaw and deburring with a cartridge case deburring tool. He found no noticeable effect on accuracy and concluded that a high precision crown was not really necessary at least for 22LR. Since the bullets are heeled you would think they would be sensitive to a bad crown. It was a remarkable demonstration that perfect crowning was more cosmetic than utilitarian in his experiment.

RWO

Oh boy, now you did it.

 

[dc.fireman]

Neither of my Winchester 52's - the C or D models had crowns. Just flush cut, straight faced smooth muzzles, from the factory. I should've never sold either of them...

 

[Paddyd]

My Winchester 1894 30.30 has shot plenty well for the past 116 years with a flat muzzle and no crown.

 

[TAJ45]

I'll go to the corner too...a round head screw or carriage bolt chucked up in a drill with lapping compound on the head can make a decent crown, prob not match worthy but the animals you shoot with it won't know the difference

I relapped a cz 17hmr w a brass screw. It had been cleaned from the muzzle end. 7/8 shooter, usually two groups per 5 shots. Ended up at 3/4.
An improvement but never the 1/2 moa "everyone" said they were getting. Sold it.

 

[hammerjack]

All you need to do is find you a Creed barrel to cut off hell it should shoot in the ones all day long without a crown.

 

[Fast14riot]

What do you mean by "crown".

Every barrel has a crown.

Some crowns are better than others.

--Jerry

Kinda like asking for a rope with no ends.

 

[ebb]

I asked Col. Billy about crowns and if a brass screw would work. He told me he has built rifles that have won national titles with a brass screw crown, and others cut with much attention to detail in a lathe that shot no better.

 

[Tommie]

A buddy was shooting a 6BR he built himself. He cut the barrel to length and just faced off the muzzle in a lathe. Not “crowned” per se but it seemed to work fine.