Back Ordered Ford

[sw282]

Chip shortage seems to be the problem. l read somewhere awhile back the top 3 chip producers were Taiwan@63%. China@16%. USA@12%. A bit sad we are so far behind. We invented the transistor, printed/intigrated circuit AND the CHIP

 

[D Coots]

Tesla car batteries in the US market are made In Nevada as far as I know. Ford has customer price and financing protection. We got our Maverick yesterday after 53 week wait. No mark up and they gave us the 9/2021 0% financing. Very impressed with Ford.

I dont think its fair or really accurate to say we outsourced the chips. It's more like they evolved in better industry environments. Intel was made here. Motorola. But Nvida, AMD all that and the cell phone has always been offshore, right

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From what my phone tells me, the batteries for 1 model are made here. Japan makes the batteries for the other 2 models.

We need to have a large percentage of these produced here and be self sufficient.

 

[Flouncer]

From what my phone tells me, the batteries for 1 model are made here. Japan makes the batteries for the other 2 models.

We need to have a large percentage of these produced here and be self sufficient.

Heh Heh Heh Yeah. The phone and the batteries ?? Ouch !!

 

[archerforkids]

And now the delivery date moved....again.
Wow...just wow

 

[archerforkids]

And it's shipping by rail no less. Last time I received something by rail it came in 10 weeks after job was complete.
One can only hope

 

[Bill Clifton]

Dealers are not required to participate in the Employee plans; and you are correct, I failed to mention that the Dealer still makes a base sum for handling the transaction/delivery.
Does that make sense that a Dealer chooses not to participate? It does when few eligible people live in the area of his core customer base.
I was hired to build the Excursions in 1999, production was 20 hours per day (2 shifts), 6 days per week, but the Order Bank grew beyond our capacity to deliver in a timely fashion very much like today. The Super Duty Order Bank was nearly a quarter of our annual production. The 6.8 Ltr V-10 gas and 7.3 Ltr V-8 Diesel were much preferred, and we had an enormous demand from Export Markets. The First Gulf War caused a significant drain on our Work Force as the National Guard and Reserve Soldiers from our Plant were activated/mobilized.
As you can imagine production took a hit for a while but adjustments were made.
We have not experienced such a broad spectrum of shortages in my Wife’s (29.5 years).

If they don't participate it's just their loss then. When you can't get vehicles to sell I'm not sure why a dealer would want to turn down easy money however minimal it is.

My point in previous post was about during that time you mention. Dealers could not get the trucks to sell so as I mentioned the dealer was more than happy to take the executive plan order. They were waiting 6 and 9 months on regular Super Duty orders back then. I had mine in two weeks. I just told the dealer I wanted the Vin# when they got the order conformation back, from there it was a matter of a phone call to get that one built. It's just all in knowing the right people in the right places. lol

 

[GotRDid]

Quite a different era back then, indeed.

 

[D Coots]

Heh Heh Heh Yeah. The phone and the batteries ?? Ouch !!

No, the Tesla.

 

[rbs]

Just seen this post, and I'm in the exact situation. Placed order mid Feb with delivery dates changed 2-3 times. Finally got notification that the truck was built and shipping would be within a few days to a week. Received another email that delivery had been rescheduled and would be delayed a month, projected to arrive end of Oct or first of Nov. Not certain why Ford would misrepresent the simple facts. We sold our current truck, believing that Ford would deliver, and we're stuck without and waiting. All of the blame belongs to Ford, largely due to canceling their commitment to purchase chips and a new market was found with no ability for the chip manufacturers to increase production to make up for the shortfall. This was straight out of the mouth of a plant manager for Ford.

 

[hogpatrol]

If they don't participate it's just their loss then. When you can't get vehicles to sell I'm not sure why a dealer would want to turn down easy money however minimal it is.

My point in previous post was about during that time you mention. Dealers could not get the trucks to sell so as I mentioned the dealer was more than happy to take the executive plan order. They were waiting 6 and 9 months on regular Super Duty orders back then. I had mine in two weeks. I just told the dealer I wanted the Vin# when they got the order conformation back, from there it was a matter of a phone call to get that one built. It's just all in knowing the right people in the right places. lol

IIRC, GM dealers got 5% of invoice on employee vehicles. In today's market, they'll make a lot more money on a retail sale. In my area, GM dealers are not selling employee discount on trucks.

 

[rjtfroggy]

Back in the 90's I ended up buying a Taurus and a F150 at the same time, went to the same Ford dealer that I had bought from before a few times.
Traded a 3-year-old Bronco for the taurus the cost to me was a little over the cost of transfer and reg.
Then 3 weeks later traded the trans am in on F150 under 10k out the door.
3 weeks later the doorbell rings after dinner and it was the owner of the dealership (was a neighbor) and he handed me a check for almost $900- said it was all put through as employee sale and that was the discount amount for the 2 vehicles.
Still use the same dealer when I need/want a vehicle.

 

[Gary in MD]

All of this makes me glad I bought my F250 in 2019 (about 53K on it), just paid it off and looking to be payment free for at least 10 years.

 

[INTJ]

I e got a 01 chevy arf ton. Runs splendidly. Not arf the performance choking junk the Guberment has saddled current vehicles with. No payments either.

An '01 Chevy 1/2 ton made 315 HP with the 5.3. A 2022 makes 355 HP with the 5.3. Can also get a 420 HP in 2022 that gets the same mileage as the 5.3.

A 2001 3/4 Ton Chevy Duramax made 300 HP, while the 2022 makes 445.

 

[GotRDid]

Just seen this post, and I'm in the exact situation. Placed order mid Feb with delivery dates changed 2-3 times. Finally got notification that the truck was built and shipping would be within a few days to a week. Received another email that delivery had been rescheduled and would be delayed a month, projected to arrive end of Oct or first of Nov. Not certain why Ford would misrepresent the simple facts. We sold our current truck, believing that Ford would deliver, and we're stuck without and waiting. All of the blame belongs to Ford, largely due to canceling their commitment to purchase chips and a new market was found with no ability for the chip manufacturers to increase production to make up for the shortfall. This was straight out of the mouth of a plant manager for Ford.


You know David Dronebarger?

 

[Bill Clifton]

IIRC, GM dealers got 5% of invoice on employee vehicles. In today's market, they'll make a lot more money on a retail sale. In my area, GM dealers are not selling employee discount on trucks.

I'm sure they won't on their inventory but my point is for new employee orders it seems crazy to turn them down. I've bought that way from two different Ford dealers and they were always more than happy to take the order. Even for a Super Duty back when they had nearly a year wait because as I said I was told an order through employee pricing did not effect their other quotas and was even told he didn't care if I did back out of the deal when it came in so he had an extra to sell.

 

[Papa Charlie]

With all the electronics, reduced quality and other issues I see with new vehicles in general, I plan to hang on to my 2003 F350 4 Door, 4x4, 7.3 Lt Dually. It makes sense to me to just keep fixing anything that goes wrong and save a lot of money. Especially when you look at the cost to replace the truck. Plus she only has about 195K on her. Engine only got broke in about 45K miles ago. Beside, it gets around 12.8 average MPG and I would say that 90% of my driving is around town. Not great, but not bad either. Does hurt a bit when I need tires.

 

[Adam in WI]

Can also get a 420 HP in 2022 that gets the same mileage as the 5.3.

Love my '18 Denali 6.2. Awesome motor. I get about 17 mpg just country driving. It'll do 20 or better on the highway. The 8 speed; while not as bad as some made it sound, is not as smooth and predictable as either the 6 speed Ford or GM. I still feel like my '11 F-150 was a "tighter" truck. I just wish they'd have put a less "techy" motor in it.

 

[INTJ]

Love my '18 Denali 6.2. Awesome motor. I get about 17 mpg just country driving. It'll do 20 or better on the highway. The 8 speed; while not as bad as some made it sound, is not as smooth and predictable as either the 6 speed Ford or GM. I still feel like my '11 F-150 was a "tighter" truck. I just wish they'd have put a less "techy" motor in it.

I had a 2020 6.2 with the 10 spd and max tow. Best gas truck I ever had. The only reason I traded it was because with 27000 miles on it they gave me $3k more than I paid for it, which put me into a 2022 2500 HD DMax very affordably.

 

[rbs]

Just seen this post, and I'm in the exact situation. Placed order mid Feb with delivery dates changed 2-3 times. Finally got notification that the truck was built and shipping would be within a few days to a week. Received another email that delivery had been rescheduled and would be delayed a month, projected to arrive end of Oct or first of Nov. Not certain why Ford would misrepresent the simple facts. We sold our current truck, believing that Ford would deliver, and we're stuck without and waiting. All of the blame belongs to Ford, largely due to canceling their commitment to purchase chips and a new market was found with no ability for the chip manufacturers to increase production to make up for the shortfall. This was straight out of the mouth of a plant manager for Ford.


You know David Dronebarger?

• Shortage caused by the pandemic The ongoing chip shortage began soon after the start of the pandemic last year. When car sales came to a screeching halt, automakers canceled existing orders for chips, expecting their plants would remain closed for an extended period.

 

[6xcshooter]

Took me 5 months to get my ram 2500. Last February to June