Attention: Ammo Hoarders

[Geeman]

...and you know who you are.

What I am is not your business. It's not.

One step more, I don't care what you feel I am.

If I choose to buy something... Anything.... It's my decision as long as its the fruit of my labor.

Its likely a close call as to if I shot more or given away more .22 ammo over the past 12 months. That's my choice too.

Tommy, I sure hope you will see the light. Some would choose bicycle travel for you only, except when you need to use the bus. A one room apartment in an urban setting is all you or anyone else truely needs. And of course, no-one needs a gun, that's why we have police.

I cannot state this strongly enough, either its freedom to choose, or its being subject to others choosing what's right for you. I'll vote for your freedom to choose. I'd like to think the opposite is true also.

Greg

 

[butchlambert]

...and you know who you are.

What I am is not your business. It's not.

One step more, I don't care what you feel I am.

If I choose to buy something... Anything.... It's my decision as long as its the fruit of my labor.

Its likely a close call as to if I shot more or given away more .22 ammo over the past 12 months. That's my choice too.

Tommy, I sure hope you will see the light. Some would choose bicycle travel for you only, except when you need to use the bus. A one room apartment in an urban setting is all you or anyone else truely needs. And of course, no-one needs a gun, that's why we have police.

I cannot state this strongly enough, either its freedom to choose, or its being subject to others choosing what's right for you. I'll vote for your freedom to choose. I'd like to think the opposite is true also.

Greg

Great post Greg!

 

[CJ6]

I think that there's a misconception about so-called "hoarders". Their "hoard" was not purchased yesterday, last month or a year ago,it's been accumulated over years or even 10's of years. Purchasing ammo or componants when funds were there and or sales were on.

 

[GrocMax]

I think all those people who lived simply for many years and hoarded all their money, made investments in their futures should release a bit of it for me, because I ignored the future and partied and consumed my way thru early life!

These shortage arguments get pretty silly and just drive a wedge between people who would normally consider themselves friends.

There's a silver lining to the black rifle and pistol panic-buying crowd-

You think many of them will be voting Feinsteins, Bidens, and Obamas into office in the future?

 

[bozo699]

Tommie,
I don't consider myself a hoarder but you probably would. If I walk into a store and they have one brick or 100 bricks, I buy what I want. If I want all 100 I buy them, I may not shoot them for years but I have then in case I may want them. I do the same with all components. I do it with oil and oil filters but I never hear anyone complaining about that! I been mass buying for years! I don't believe I have ever sold any of it I have gave a lot away, but if I did want to sell it , then it would be my business and my right, and if no one liked it then they don't have to buy from me. I plan on buying 25 or 30 more lbs of rl-22 when I find it as I am down to about 30 lbs of it, doesn't make me a hoarder just a person that plans ahead. And I will use it!
Wayne.

 

[Dans40X]

For those less fortunate-

[size=24pt]PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ARSE & SEE THE LIGHT![/size]

All this didn't start yesterday.

I cherish the 40+$9 brick 22LR bought w/in the last decade.
Shelf life is good for a few more decades.

 

[Shynloco]

Dans40X,
That's very difficult for some as when they get up in the morning and look in the mirror, they see the biggest obstacle they'll face all day. And they don't even recognize the face. They'd rather cry than take care of business. And I wish what I have, only cost $9 a brick as I haven't bought a brick for that amount in 5 years+ as its all Competition Match Ammo that you don't buy at Walmart. But the criers have no clue about things like that.

 

[Raythemanroe]

I say buy everything that hits the shelf and keep the manufacturers pumping it out. When they catch up with demand buy more, every household should be overstocked in my opinion..I hope it gets so crazy that instead of a 40% increase it is 150%, let the shooting sports boom..

If your truly scared get off your a$$ and get some shooting buddies to the polls..



Ray

 

[NateHaler]

Folks I am honestly surprised. Does anyone really think that owning enough of something for use in the forseeable future is the same thing as hoarding? I am addressing people who grab the last box of ammo on the shelf when they already have a metric ton of the stuff at home.

Ammo plants are running full tilt, adding production facilities, hiring a third shift and STILL there's a ammunition availability issue. Are people suddenly shooting that much more? Nope.

Next time you step up to the buffet line for a second plate and take the last piece of chicken while the guy behind you has yet to eat, feel confident that you're exercising your right. To heck with the next guy.

If one single child misses out on the chance to learn marksmanship because a parent/uncle/friend couldn't buy ammunition...ah never mind. Maybe I'm the one who just doesn't get it.

How disappointing is it that the above post is here, in the context of a shooting forum? Other than the topic being ammunition, this is textbook liberalism, i.e. socialism, i.e. disingenuous cattle excretions. The last line is truly from the liberal vineyard (read: WHINE) , and should be served with a thick slice of government cheese. (Think Velveeta, but in generic wrapping and if possible even less cachet...)

If a single child drowns in a swimming pool, if a single child gets hurt because they weren't strapped into a government approved and mandated and subsidized car seat, if a single child doesn't feel good about himself because his moron parents watch The Colbert Report instead of teaching him right from wrong and how to do math the easy way instead of the Common Core (aka crazy) way. There's no end to that madness. And it's here, on a shooting forum.

No, I don't think you get it. If you want to do something productive, ask your family/friends/colleagues who voted for the current POTUS and any other liberals, anti-Constitution, anti-2nd Amendment, pro-BIG GOVERNMENT "representatives". Because the people who support such power-mongering, finger-pointing, smugly-grinning sociopaths are the real WHORE-ders.

If you want to start down a slippery slope, do it at a ski resort. 8)

 

[Dans40X]

Shynloco,
True & life seems too easy for many w/ all the conveniences in this 21 century.

The 40+ $9/brick 22LR ammo is my plinking/grouse/ptarmigan pistol ammo.
That's not counting the cases of RWS,Lapua,Ely,FGM match rifle ammo!

The days of $45/brick match ammo are long gone!

 

[bozo699]

Folks I am honestly surprised. Does anyone really think that owning enough of something for use in the forseeable future is the same thing as hoarding? I am addressing people who grab the last box of ammo on the shelf when they already have a metric ton of the stuff at home.

Ammo plants are running full tilt, adding production facilities, hiring a third shift and STILL there's a ammunition availability issue. Are people suddenly shooting that much more? Nope.

Next time you step up to the buffet line for a second plate and take the last piece of chicken while the guy behind you has yet to eat, feel confident that you're exercising your right. To heck with the next guy.

If one single child misses out on the chance to learn marksmanship because a parent/uncle/friend couldn't buy ammunition...ah never mind. Maybe I'm the one who just doesn't get it.

How disappointing is it that the above post is here, in the context of a shooting forum? Other than the topic being ammunition, this is textbook liberalism, i.e. socialism, i.e. disingenuous cattle excretions. The last line is truly from the liberal vineyard (read: WHINE) , and should be served with a thick slice of government cheese. (Think Velveeta, but in generic wrapping and if possible even less cachet...)

If a single child drowns in a swimming pool, if a single child gets hurt because they weren't strapped into a government approved and mandated and subsidized car seat, if a single child doesn't feel good about himself because his moron parents watch The Colbert Report instead of teaching him right from wrong and how to do math the easy way instead of the Common Core (aka crazy) way. There's no end to that madness. And it's here, on a shooting forum.

No, I don't think you get it. If you want to do something productive, ask your family/friends/colleagues who voted for the current POTUS and any other liberals, anti-Constitution, anti-2nd Amendment, pro-BIG GOVERNMENT "representatives". Because the people who support such power-mongering, finger-pointing, smugly-grinning sociopaths are the real WHORE-ders.

If you want to start down a slippery slope, do it at a ski resort. 8)

WOW!!!!!!!.........is just about all I have to say to this!...Oh and SPOT ON!! as well!!!
My thoughts exactly, only difference you said it! My friends Liberalism truly is a mental disorder!... I see this same type of thinking all the time anymore out west here in the back country of Washington and Idaho. People from California and Oregon move up here to get away from it all, first thing they do is get on the school board, pta, town council and other entities like that,.....then the first things you start seeing is local covenants, we all need new tax hikes, side walks needs replaced, school needs replaced and on and on, the next thing you know little California is right here in small podunk USA,...Liberalism at it's finest!!!
Wayne.

P.S well Put BOhio!!

 

[NateHaler]

we're fleeing California, not the least of reasons being how many of our mates are unwilling to ship even bullets (not ammo, BULLETS) to California. Mandatory 10-day waiting period, with the chances of winning the Powerball lottery being better than the odds that California will ever implement the NICS. (Imagine what Homer Simpson would say after learning about 10 friggin' days... "But I'm mad now!!!" And Homer would make a better politician than 75% of the people in office, because he's a fictional character and thus wouldn't do anything which is better than the incessant, self-serving, justifying their-worse-than-cancer growth, of the government bureaucrats. Too bad these schmucks don't have to take the oath that has a mandate of "Do No Harm".)

As I've quipped before, want to watch a horse race? Tune in to the Kentucky Derby or head to your local county fair. Want to watch a whores' race? Follow any election, esp. the senatorial and congressional "races" here in California. Boxer, Feinstein, and Pelosi represent me? Pardon me while I barf myself inside out, and not because I have body image issues or that my mom stayed at home raising us until I was a junior in high school or that I didn't buy my first car until I was a senior in college.

 

[justinp61]

Guys, I don't begrudge guys that have been buying ammo or supplies for years. If you started buying it when you were 10 and are now 80 and haven't fired a shot, I don't care. I buy powder and primers when I find it, the powders I use show up every three to six months and if I happen to be there when the lGS has it I'll pick up a pound or two. Primers are a different story, haven't seen any CCI 200s in a while. I'm still in good shape so I'm not worried about them. If I get a chance to pick some up I will.

I also buy oil for my vehicles when I catch it on sale. When I bought my new truck a couple years ago one of the chain parts stores had the oil I like on sale for $1.99 per quart, I bought 7 cases. Down to four quarts now.

My problem is with the people who line up at wally world, or where ever with the sole purpose of buying all the ammo they put out to sell at 4X the prices. I know a lot of you don't buy/shoot ammo from wally world and for the most part I don't either, haven't bought any from there in years. Some guys have said this capitalism, ok. What if some wealthy individual decided to buy all the gas from the local stations, had tankers sitting at them waiting for the next load to unload so they could buy it and take it to their storage facility and sell it from their own station at 4x the going rate. Still capitalism? How would you guys react? I know it's an exaggeration and I meant it to be. But didn't a pair of brothers in Texas try to do something similar with silver years ago?

There are people in my who area can't afford to pay scalper prices for ammo. I know some of you will say it's their own fault or they should better their self's so they can improve their standard of living. And I agree there are some who will never help themselves, they came from parents who were the same way. But there are some who are trying and at some point will. I know, I've been there. When my daughter was small I worked construction and about starved to death in the Reagan era. Not saying the economy was his fault, just making reference to the time frame. I had trouble putting food on the table at times, but I did, no welfare. Rob Peter to pay Paul? Yes. But Paul always got paid too. In my basement there is a half gallon whiskey jar from my wild days before I married. I always put my extra change in the jar and at times in the winters when there was no work I bought groceries with that change. I still put change in that jar as a reminder of times past and now when it gets full I'll roll it up and buy something I need or want. I worked hard and have been blessed with a great job that pays well.

You may not have people in you're area that were in the same boat as I was and that's great. I know I'm going to get bashed for this post, everyone who has posted anything even remotely similar to mine has been bashed. So fire away..............I have thick skin.

 

[JimT]

Lots of differing points of view on this thread. I must confess that I am not in need of any components, ammo or guns for that matter, mostly due to some of the purchasing habits espoused throughout this thread. However, I also must admit that I have curtailed those buying habits in the past year or so since I felt I had enough to "get me thru" (call me stupid) and thought someone else might have a more pressing need for items in short supply.

Of course, now I understand that my restraint was really a sign of weakness for which I am truly ashamed. I mean no one ever told me that the human condition known as "greed" has no application when it comes to ammo, bullets, brass, primers, powder, etc.

Every time a learn something of extraordinary value when visiting this site I try to make a $50 donation to this site. I guess it is time to pony up again. I hope all of you will too.

 

[wmdron]

Yep, Greed is Good, or maybe..Dare I say it ? god ?

 

[Steve3]

If the ammo plants are really adding major extra capacity and working 24/7 cranking out extra tons of product this really is a good thing, even if hoarders are buying stuff up. Because one day the hoarders are going to run out of money and the ammo plants are still going to be cranking out major tons of extra product.

 

[butchlambert]

Steve3, Don't hold your breath.

 

[Steve3]

I know...

 

[bowfisher]

"disingenuous cattle excretions"

I gotta write that one down, lmao

 

[SShooterZ]

I have 1 and only 1 question alone for all your HOARDERS out there?

How do you store your ammunition? I'm running out of room myself and looking for ideas. ;D