Really? Lines like "ATF has also received numerous requests from licensees" go right along with " It has been shown" and "We know that". Don't believe a word of it. Any good PR person (is there such a thing?) will tell you that these type of opening statements are there to reinforce a position and persuade agreement, even before you had read the document.
ATF changing the rules
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LarryDScott
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ATFs story line reminds me of Ky F&W management saying we are going to send you somewhere for a wk for "The Training that you all have requested". No one ever seem to know who made that request.
Just a narrative to fit their need.
Just a narrative to fit their need.
GotRDid
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Jefferson County (now “Metro”) does the same.
300_whisper
Banned
Yeah probably
Do you guys have a version of the ATF? What happened with your “gun turn in”? Did people comply? Genuine questions.
Do you guys have a version of the ATF? What happened with your “gun turn in”? Did people comply? Genuine questions.
I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you.
........to FORCE you.........
Well, we really had no choice. The Police's attitude has really changed under this awful bunch of socialists. They have also recruited some that the UK didn't want. They have a bad attitude toward firearm owners (ask anyone that lives there). The government basically asked the cops for a wish list, and called it legislation.
At the end of the day, we have become a banana republic. We have no upper house to provide control.
Sure, there are criminals that still have possession of Semi's, but everyone I know handed them in, some for low compensation. And then went out and bought new bolt guns.
Gun control is at a new high now, strange how it was just left alone the last 4 years but now…..Over here they want to limit us even more on the number of FAs we can own, no more collectors, no more self defence weapons because we have the very efficient police and this country is so peacefull, no more semi auto anything and then the kicker…it wil be elegal to manufacture your own ammunition. FML
Does any one know of a cheap island for sale where I can just be on my own
The best part is, this is planed because if the legal owners have less guns then there are less guns that can get stolen in house roberies.
Does any one know of a cheap island for sale where I can just be on my own
The best part is, this is planed because if the legal owners have less guns then there are less guns that can get stolen in house roberies.
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timeout
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Really nothing strange about it, the last 4 years we had a Republican President and Senate. Now we have the presidency and both legislative branches controlled by the Marxist, Socialist, Communist party AKA Democrats.
We are all concerned about what the future holds for guns.... But if they can't take Iraq in 20 years about how long to take America if the people say no to something..???? What concerns me more is what our economy will be in a few years.... Things have doubled in price or tripled in 150 days.... Wait till it's 700 days... This is only the beginning of a rough ride... Get what you need stored away now , you don't things are going to return to normal or even better yet , get cheaper do ya any time soon or ever again...
I may be absolutely wrong , but I have been buying all the big ticket items I have been needing NOW.... Things that flat can't wait another 4-8 years... I new zero turn to replace my old raggedy mower that finally blew up and a new roof on my house ( OUCH )... Sure it's like betting money on the stock market and I could be wrong but I don't see things getting cheaper next month or even next year etc...
What scares me just as much is ALL these major corporation falling in line... Even the Auto industry saying in 15 years they won't be making gas powered vehicles anymore , remember that only a few months ago we were energy independent now the price of gas has doubled... I honestly don't like the outlook of what the future holds right now for pretty much everything.... Good luck out there everybody....
I may be absolutely wrong , but I have been buying all the big ticket items I have been needing NOW.... Things that flat can't wait another 4-8 years... I new zero turn to replace my old raggedy mower that finally blew up and a new roof on my house ( OUCH )... Sure it's like betting money on the stock market and I could be wrong but I don't see things getting cheaper next month or even next year etc...
What scares me just as much is ALL these major corporation falling in line... Even the Auto industry saying in 15 years they won't be making gas powered vehicles anymore , remember that only a few months ago we were energy independent now the price of gas has doubled... I honestly don't like the outlook of what the future holds right now for pretty much everything.... Good luck out there everybody....
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If you are willing. Here is a link to a form letter to the atf on the proposed rules from the GOA. Everyone should be telling the ATF what we think about their attempt to change the rules.
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338 dude
Banned
I agree 100% if this affordable care act is so affordable why does 50% of my monthly income go to medications
338 dude
Banned
Done!
And here is another from the American suppressor association.
americansuppressorassociation.com
TAKE ACTION! Urge Your Senators to Oppose Anti-Gun Nominee for ATF Director - American Suppressor Association
Urge Your Senators to Oppose Anti-Gun Nominee for ATF Director WASHINGTON, DC — UPDATE: On Thursday, June 24th the Senate Judiciary Committee will vote on President Biden’s nomination of anti-gun activist David Chipman to be the Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and...
americansuppressorassociation.com
Retired Grunt
F Open Shooter
The Gubmint likes nothing more than a silent complacent populace.
hpshooter
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My guess is the list was started a long time ago in the Joe McCarthy/J Edgar Hoover days if not earlier in the name of rooting out seditionist and John Birchers.
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If there is a list, then every one on this site is likely to be on it already. Stand up and make your voice heard while you can. It will be harder to reverse this then stop it in the first place. If you think “Well this doesn’t affect me”, then you will be on your own when they finally come for something of yours.
338 dude
Banned
DoneAnd here is another from the American suppressor association.
TAKE ACTION! Urge Your Senators to Oppose Anti-Gun Nominee for ATF Director - American Suppressor Association
Urge Your Senators to Oppose Anti-Gun Nominee for ATF Director WASHINGTON, DC — UPDATE: On Thursday, June 24th the Senate Judiciary Committee will vote on President Biden’s nomination of anti-gun activist David Chipman to be the Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and...
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