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[Dusty Stevens]

I too have claimed that cases can have resistance to sizing so make that 2 of us that know that Mr Guffey

 

[dmoran]

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I am the only reloader that....

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[6MMsteve]

would the real Guffey please stand up

 

[Comrade Terry]

 

[Dusty Stevens]

 

[LHSmith]

Why? Why do I feel compelled to read the Professor Emeritus's comments......and always regret it afterwords.

 

[Webster]

My day would not be complete with out Fdoofey

Isn't guffey repeating the same thing a hundred times? You cannot discourage him.

 

[BoydAllen]

Did you understand the part where I said the case does not have head space? And in my drivel I have used the term 'shoulder/datum' hundreds of times to avoid confusing reloaders. The part where I do not believe you have a clue is the part comes when the article claims incomplete sizing changes the cartridge length.

One more time: I have a 30/06 rifle with a chamber that is .016" longer than a minimum length/full length sized case when measured from the shoulder/datum to the case head. For me this chamber does not present a problem, I use 280 Remington cases necked up top 30 CAL. with .014" added to the length of the case from the shoulder to the case head. I know you do not have a clue but this method of forming/sizing gives me the magic .002" clearance.

Methods and techniques: When forming/sizing cases for this chamber I adjust the sizing die off the shell holder .011" thousands meaning my new shoulder is formed from the case body, I have no choice because it is impossible to move the shoulder back with a die that has case body support. I know, you do not understand but the 280 Remington case is .051" longer from the datum/shoulder to the case head than the 30/06 case is from the datum/shoulder to the case head.

And then it gets very difficult for a reloader to keep up with because I did not change the chamber, all other reloaderws with long chambers insist on trimming the length of the case according to trim length instructions, I don't, I add the .014" to the length of the case.



I size cases with a press, die and shell holder, when I size the case I control the length of the case from the shoulder/datum to the case head. And then there is 'size to what'? there is full length sizing, that would be the same as minimum length. What is minimum length? I do not believe you understood the article from L.E. Wilson.

F. Guffey

Actually that was all pretty clear, except the part about not being able to move the shoulder back with a die that fully supports the case body. We do it all the time.
Recently I fire formed some 6BR Ackley cases in a dedicated fire forming rifle that a friend put together that was intentionally built with long chamber headspace. In order to have my brass fit my new rifle, that is properly headspaced I had to move the shoulder back about .006, which I did with no problem. This caused the formation of a doughnut in every case but I determined that this will not be a problem because all of the bullets that I plan on using will not have the back of their shanks anywhere near the back of the neck.

 

[Medic505]

F. Guffey

Mr. Guffey,
Are you for real? I sometimes get the feeling you push buttons/pull chains just for grins. You list your location as "North Texas". I know many shooters from the North Texas area but I don't know you. Do you compete? What discipline do you shoot? Benchrest? F Class? PRS?

So I guess the .99 cent question is, does anyone here know Mr.Guffey? Inquiring minds want to know.....

 

[dedogs]

Mr. Guffey,
Are you for real? I sometimes get the feeling you push buttons/pull chains just for grins. You list your location as "North Texas". I know many shooters from the North Texas area but I don't know you. Do you compete? What discipline do you shoot? Benchrest? F Class? PRS?

So I guess the .99 cent question is, does anyone here know Mr.Guffey? Inquiring minds want to know.....

If I did, I sure don't think I would ADMIT IT! dedogs

 

[dcali]

There’s no anger here. I legitimately love the debates had here and all their wacky nuance. Carry on, gents.

 

[dolek]

There’s no anger here. I legitimately love the debates had here and all their wacky nuance. Carry on, gents.

Really? I think all that crap sucks ! I think Guff needs to be banned...he stinks up the place !

 

[urbanrifleman]

I remember a time on the Accurate forum where getting the opportunity to mock someone wasn't the highlight of the day. It's petty and childish and happening way too often. Not to mention it is the behavior of cowards that would most likely never have the BALLS to mock someone to their face in person.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Really? I think all that crap sucks ! I think Guff needs to be banned...he stinks up the place !

Dang communist, why don't we put you in charge of who is allowed to speak!!!

Sieg Heil mein Führer!!!

 

[Medic505]

I remember a time on the Accurate forum where getting the opportunity to mock someone wasn't the highlight of the day. It's petty and childish and happening way too often. Not to mention it is the behavior of cowards that would most likely never have the BALLS to mock someone to their face in person.

So tell us Urban, why is your name not associated with your posts. Why don't you grow a pair and add it?

 

[urbanrifleman]

So tell us Urban, why is your name not associated with your posts. Why don't you grow a pair and add it?

I did not know it was a requirement.

Bradley Walker
Tulsa, OK

You want my address? Social security number? Major credit card? Credit references?

This whole thread is just shameful. A bunch of grown men acting like 6 year olds.

 

[Medic505]

Really? I think all that crap sucks ! I think Guff needs to be banned...he stinks up the place !

I disagree Dale. Mr. Guffey has the right to post his thoughts here just like you and I. Besides, one of these days I'm going to figure out what he's talking about....maybe.

 

[Comrade Terry]

Sieg Heil mein Führer!!!

Godwin's Law strikes again.

You know he's got nothing to say when he plays cards like that.

 

[Medic505]

I did not know it was a requirement.

Bradley Walker
Tulsa, OK

You want my address? Social security number? Major credit card? Credit references?

This whole thread is just shameful. A bunch of grown men acting like 6 year olds.

Touché Mr. Walker
Now that you mention it, I have a new rifle coming and your social and a major credit card would be very helpful.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Godwin's Law strikes again.

You know he's got nothing to say when he plays cards like that.

6 year old. ENGAGED.