Ammo Question

[K22]

Have any of you tried the Sellier and Bellot Club 22 LR ammo?

A fellow a shooter told me about it and claims it is more consistent (less flyers) than CCI SV and within the same price range. Another plus is that it is available at a local shop.

I am not looking to compete; I am just tired of the extreme flyers with CCI SV (approximately 3.3% on average per brick). I am also fighting the urge to enter the "rabbit hole".

PS: I am a novice rimfire rifle shooter, just got back into last year with a Tikka T1X which I like very much. I have carefully determined that the "flyers" are not the rifle, scope or the shooters, but attributable to the ammo. All shooting is at 50 yards.

 

[deadidarren]

Well as you know all 22s are different just get some and try them .
With any luck they work for you .

 

[dutch14]

I looked on the web sites where I normally shop, only targetsportsusa listed the brand name as out of stock. This came up about a month ago, I looked then with the same results. If people thought it was good it would be listed and available somewhere. If you are interested in trigger time ammo, then try it.

 

[nakneker]

I shoot a lot of 22LR for fun. Never tried what you mentioned although I would if I saw some. If it’s available and you can buy a small amount to try I’d try it, If they have enough you could back and buy more of the same lot that would be a bonus obviously. I don’t shoot very much of the Gucci 22 ammo, we don’t shoot competition, just shoot a for fun both targets and small game.

Federal game shok has been an ammo a lot of my rifles like. 22 rifles and the ammo they like vary a lot, seems like every rifle has one or two ammo brands/types they prefer and I haven’t found anything all of them agree on.

 

[SteveOak]

What is your tolerance for flyers, both spread and percentage?

 

[HockeybigD]

I did not have any luck with S&B out of several of my guns (including CZ457 MTR). In fact it was awful! Sold it all to someone who had a CZ457 MTR. His gun shot it well.

 

[Straightshooter1]

Have any of you tried the Sellier and Bellot Club 22 LR ammo?

A fellow a shooter told me about it and claims it is more consistent (less flyers) than CCI SV and within the same price range. Another plus is that it is available at a local shop.

I am not looking to compete; I am just tired of the extreme flyers with CCI SV (approximately 3.3% on average per brick). I am also fighting the urge to enter the "rabbit hole".

PS: I am a novice rimfire rifle shooter, just got back into last year with a Tikka T1X which I like very much. I have carefully determined that the "flyers" are not the rifle, scope or the shooters, but attributable to the ammo. All shooting is at 50 yards.

It's been a few years since I look as some Sellier & Bellot ammo. Initially, I like to look at the chrono data and the best of S&B ammo I found had an ES of 73, and their HP 38 gr had very dissappointing ES's of 108 and 124. CCI SV's have alway produced much better than any of that for me over the years. Therefore I nevere consider S&B LR ammo again. Maybe they've improved since???

 

[K22]

It's been a few years since I look as some Sellier & Bellot ammo. Initially, I like to look at the chrono data and the best of S&B ammo I found had an ES of 73, and their HP 38 gr had very dissappointing ES's of 108 and 124. CCI SV's have alway produced much better than any of that for me over the years. Therefore I nevere consider S&B LR ammo again. Maybe they've improved since???

The ammo in question is 40 grain standard velocity. The reason I asked about experience with it is that it is a long drive to the shop and I just wanted to check with other shooters to validate what the guy told me.

I'll probably try a brick the next time I am up that way, it isn't expensive, in the same range as CCI SV.

 

[snert]

K22,

by the time you buy and test three inexpensive bricks you could buy a couple 50 round boxes of good stuff to test then buy two bricks of it and wear yourself out after that....

I found that to be true for my 541T, the hard way. I finally succumbed, went to the local target ammo supplier, bought five boxes of his recommended assortment. Shot them and found a clear winner and a close second. I bought a brick of the winner and have zero complaints paying $90 a brick.

 

[K22]

K22,

by the time you buy and test three inexpensive bricks you could buy a couple 50 round boxes of good stuff to test then buy two bricks of it and wear yourself out after that....

I found that to be true for my 541T, the hard way. I finally succumbed, went to the local target ammo supplier, bought five boxes of his recommended assortment. Shot them and found a clear winner and a close second. I bought a brick of the winner and have zero complaints paying $90 a brick.

Thanks for the advice - it makes sense. I am afraid I am about to go down the rimfire ammo rabbit hole. I don't mind missing if it's me but when it's the ammo, that drives me nuts.

The problem is that I am so used to shooting finely tuned centerfire reloads that I find it difficult to accept ammo that produces flyers. It's the reason that I had a long hiatus from the old days of rimfire shooting tins cans / empty shot gun hulls to now target shooting. But I wanted more trigger time, thus the fall into rimfire.

 

[Straightshooter1]

The ammo in question is 40 grain standard velocity. The reason I asked about experience with it is that it is a long drive to the shop and I just wanted to check with other shooters to validate what the guy told me.

I'll probably try a brick the next time I am up that way, it isn't expensive, in the same range as CCI SV.

Yeah, that one with the ES of 73 was the 40 grainer.

I try to use 22LR ammo that produces ES's less than 45. CCI-SV's have done that for me. Another one I like to use, other than the high end ones, is Eley Club that tends to give me ES's less than 40 and reasonably priced.

 

[Luisyamaha]

I used S&B many years ago, and it was fine. I wouldn't hesitate to buy some more If I see some somewhere and the price is right. For some strange reason I've never had good luck with CCI.
What cheap ammo I've found to be fairly accurate is both Aguila Super Extra and Federal Auto-Match. Both go for about .06/round here in Virginia. YMMV.

Luisyamaha

 

[MarkS]

Have any of you tried the Sellier and Bellot Club 22 LR ammo?

A fellow a shooter told me about it and claims it is more consistent (less flyers) than CCI SV and within the same price range. Another plus is that it is available at a local shop.

I am not looking to compete; I am just tired of the extreme flyers with CCI SV (approximately 3.3% on average per brick). I am also fighting the urge to enter the "rabbit hole".

PS: I am a novice rimfire rifle shooter, just got back into last year with a Tikka T1X which I like very much. I have carefully determined that the "flyers" are not the rifle, scope or the shooters, but attributable to the ammo. All shooting is at 50 yards.

I would give S&B a try. See how it shoots. I shoot a lot of rimfire. I have found Eley Contact shoots very well for it's $5.25 price. from https://www.killoughshootingsports.com/ It shoots way above it's price

 

[Knotwild]

In this day and time, I go with Norma Tac. In bulk it's cheap. If I am worried about fliers, I just get some S&K Standard +. I don't have the equipment or need to shoot the really high dollar stuff. Norma allows me to consistently hit spoons at 181 yds (the current length of my range) when the wind is calm. That entertains sufficiently.

 

[MarkS]

I found the older black box Norma Tac22 at a LGS. I got 2 bricks to test. It shot very well. I went back and got all they had for $30.00/brick

 

[Knotwild]

I found the older black box Norma Tac22 at a LGS. I got 2 bricks to test. It shot very well. I went back and got all they had for $30.00/brick

You can still find the new stuff for $35 a brick. The old stuff was supposed to be better, so someone said. I bought a case of the black box and a case of the red box. Comparing a few with a Magnetospeed indicated the red box was more consistent.