Accurate Shooting or Accurate Cost?

[BenPerfected]

On this website, it would be great if we could get more input on “Accurate Shooting” vs. low price. IMO, many/most of the posts are focused on low price, not smallest groups or highest scores. Maybe somebody smarter than me can figure out how AS can accommodate both agendas.
Ben

 

[LA50SHOOTER]

On this website, it would be great if we could get more input on “Accurate Shooting” vs. low price. IMO, many/most of the posts are focused on low price, not smallest groups or highest scores. Maybe somebody smarter than me can figure out how AS can accommodate both agendas.
Ben

Well Spoken Ben, - 9 years ago this forum was abundant with real "Accuracy" related topics & conversations. - It's still here, but there's a lot of other stuff as well. - One thing that I've ben doing is communicating a lot on a 1 on 1 basis via P.M. with like minded individuals where we have common accuracy interests. - I don't know how open to additional sub-topic forums the admins / moderators would be ? - But I believe that it would be nice if something could be done to "focus" more on the "Accuracy" part of shooting, reloading. And it could still serve multiple disciplines of shooting sports.

My .02

 

[Steve Donlon]

When I first looked at this place I got a lot of information about my 30-06 from guys like German Salazar, but things are different not only here but every where it seems. You have to pic through the chaff and adolescent chatter. But there are still some very knowledgeable people here to help. I never thought I would need to turn necks on brass to make a rifle shoot, but not only will it shoot, it will shoot very well. Better than I would have imagined. Just got to ask the right questions, I guess.

 

[Bc'z]

Ben,
Cost is a HUGE part of shooting. So why shouldn't we try n save some coin wherever one can. Hell alot of folks shoot on a budget.
Dosent mean we don't want the best accuracy obtainable with what we have to work with.
And as for adolescent banter, let me break it down for ya as best I can.
With all the headspacing,shoulder bumping, case/bullet/ primer weighing, kernel kuttin, seating depth, ladder shootin, for group and score threads till my head is gonna blank like a pierced primer. Its nice to have a few threads where guys can be guys n just hang out and shoot the shit. How else we gonna get to know one another?
1 last thing, I was a pretty good shot before I got here, but now I'm better, because I've
benperfecting my loading/shooting skills
ON A BUDGET.
Bc'z

 

[jimmymac]

I guess I’m not seeing the issue here. There are accuracy related posts all over the place. Some are budget related. Some not.

It is pretty easy for me to wade through what interests me and what doesn’t.

 

[dbduff]

If it ain't broke, leave it alone.

 

[hogpatrol]

On this website, it would be great if we could get more input on “Accurate Shooting” vs. low price. IMO, many/most of the posts are focused on low price, not smallest groups or highest scores. Maybe somebody smarter than me can figure out how AS can accommodate both agendas.
Ben

May have more of what you are interested in and some of the guys who used to post here have moved to this site:

http://benchrest.com/forum.php

Aside from that, the Search function is what I use when looking for specific info. It would cut down on a lot of wasted bandwidth if more used it.

 

[xswanted]

The problem with discussing cost and accuracy is......

Neither have a standard number that defines what “expensive” is or “accurate” is.

When a relatively novice shooter wants his 6.5 Creedmoor to be more accurate for hunting or shooting a 24” steel gong at 700 yards, they’re referring to a drastically different set of standards than a guy trying to be competitive and win in 600 yard benchrest.

Accuracy can be a pretty loose term, just like money. One guy might not blink at spending $3000 on a scope where the next guy may never be able to afford it.

I find there are many great threads here regarding accuracy. Search function helps immensely.

 

[hogpatrol]

I strive for 1/4 minute of groundhog and I probably spend the same amount of money as the BR shooters.

 

[Richard Coody]

well so much is defined by what you are trying to do. i am far down the rabbit hole. i have learned an incredible amount on this forum. it frustrates me to no end reading the post from the uninformed on this forum recently. they seem to think wrongly that what they are doing is the correct way and only way to do whatever they are espousing about. makes it hard for the new shooters to separate the wheat from the chaff

others on this forum are talking about turning brass, weighing powder to 0.02 grains, custom dies and annealing when they are shooting a factory remington 700. no doubt they wonder why they can't shoot 0.25 in groups.

 

[dbaird]

On this website, it would be great if we could get more input on “Accurate Shooting” vs. low price. IMO, many/most of the posts are focused on low price, not smallest groups or highest scores. Maybe somebody smarter than me can figure out how AS can accommodate both agendas.
Ben

I spent almost 2K on a custom 6br. Best money I ever spent. Shoots amazing with about any bullet/powder combo. In my humble opinion many folks would me better off and much happier getting ONE awesome rifle built than to have half a dozen of so so rifles.

 

[Bc'z]

Hey Richard,
I resemble that last remark.
I shoot 2 factory remington 700's.
But I don't turn necks. And both shoot .2-.3"
My 06' has always been a good shooter.
Mama's 260, let me just say thanks to everyone for thier help.
Is it bench rest accurate? No.
Does it hold an inch at 300? You bet it does.
Thanks agian I couldn't have done it without
Everyone here.
Edit,as to cost.
I've dropped 1k here on this week with various members 2scopes, 1 dillon 550, and now some bergers.
It would have easily cost me 2k any where else.
Thanks agian Brett

 

[Milo 2.0]

I think a Rem 700, even untouched will stay with top custom actions all day, everyday and you save coin in the process

A thread could start out with the greatest intentions, in 5 posts most are hijacked anyway. Valent attempts to bring them back are fruitless.

 

[Bbear]

I'm a hunter that is interested in accuracy. I have some rifles that are in the ball-park of what some guys pay for their competition guns. Not because they are 'better' made iron, but because I like pretty wood. Some rifles I'm happy with a 1 MOA group at 100. Others HAVE to be as good as I can get them. BOTH of those types of rifles have to fit within my budget. And I don't have a budget for a $3k scope.
Reading the threads that interest me have been a very valuable learning experience. It's BECAUSE of what I've read on here that I have a 'semi-custom' Swede that consistently prints .3" groups. Is it a 'target' gun? Nope, and it never will be. But what it is is a rifle I can be supremely confident in as long as I do my part. And a lot of that goes to those here on this forum for the time putting up with my questions and my reading and learning from those that have already learned how.
BECAUSE of what I've learned, I've spent my $$ more wisely. Not throwing it away on the latest fad.
To all of you, thank you - from the bottom of my wallet and my heart.

 

[oldhoward]

I would like to stick my two cents in but in a different way. I am old now and shot bench rest in the early 60's. I would like to think it is our obligation to pass the knowledge along to the next generation. If we enculturate the new, or low budget shooters, we can still grow the sport long term. Keep them interested and strive to move them up to be better shooters. Young folks don't have the budget or the knowledge today or the opportunity like we had. Just my two cents.

 

[BenPerfected]

Well Spoken Ben, - 9 years ago this forum was abundant with real "Accuracy" related topics & conversations. - It's still here, but there's a lot of other stuff as well. - One thing that I've ben doing is communicating a lot on a 1 on 1 basis via P.M. with like minded individuals where we have common accuracy interests. - I don't know how open to additional sub-topic forums the admins / moderators would be ? - But I believe that it would be nice if something could be done to "focus" more on the "Accuracy" part of shooting, reloading. And it could still serve multiple disciplines of shooting sports.

My .02

 

[WillyTP]

I think a Rem 700, even untouched will stay with top custom actions all day, everyday and you save coin in the process.

Do you really believe that?

 

[BenPerfected]

What if we had two topics similar to these on the Main Board?....maybe even a sticky?

• Let’s make a good deal and save some $
• How to get the most accuracy out of your current gun

Just thinking,
Ben

 

[Richard Coody]

Do you really believe that?

point made!

yes they do believe it.

factory remington 700 consistent in the 3's

how about posting a target with 5 five shot groups that average in the 3's

my point is unless you have a rifle/shooter capable of seeing a 0.10 improvement in group size much of the finer (more expensive) reloading tecniques are really a waste of money. if you are happy with a consistent half inch gun, which is really pretty good for the average shooter, you can get there with average reloading equipment.

if you want to go down the rabbit hole then the first thing you need to do is get a rifle that can benefit from it. you will never know if your reloading evolution is improving if you can't see it on the target.

 

[Milo 2.0]

Do you really believe that?

Oh heck no, hence the smiley. I sold my last Rem 700 this spring after it sat for 2 yrs.
Just as I was joking, you and richardo were making assumptions.