Shooting tight groups with low mag scopes

[K22]

I normally put whatever scope I plan to use on the rifle in question and roll with it. If it is of the low mag. type I match the size target up for the reticle and use the highest power I have.

^^^^^ what he said is the only way to roll in my opinion.

 

[Old Navy]

I'm with Josh - My floater is a Vortex Golden Eagle- usually at 40x.

That is exactly what I have on my 6BRA that I did my primer test with and 40X is my setting also.

 

[Bill Norris]

You will discover how bad your bench technique sucks when you get your first high power scope.

A long-time B R shooter told me if I could see my heartbeat in the scope I need to change my technique at the bench. Said I was doing something wrong. It takes some experimenting with your hold and position but it can be minimized. I won't say I completely got rid of all of it but I did improve over time with effort.

 

[Bottom Fodder]

On range day at 100 yards I shoot the same scope I shootings a match 600/1K 32 power cause i’m work the shooter (me) I also use that power setting when working on load work. That works for me

 

[C.E.Smith043]

Years ago I found a website that would allow you to print different targets that were basically negatives of a regular target.

The target I used the most was a basic " +" pattern, but instead of being a black colored + it was white outlined in black. When your crosshairs lined up perfectly the entire image turned into a solid black +

I hope this makes sense. It's hard to put into writing what I'm trying to explain.

 

[bsekf]

Years ago I found a website that would allow you to print different targets that were basically negatives of a regular target.

The target I used the most was a basic " +" pattern, but instead of being a black colored + it was white outlined in black. When your crosshairs lined up perfectly the entire image turned into a solid black +

I hope this makes sense. It's hard to put into writing what I'm trying to explain.

Do you have a link to print that target?

 

[C.E.Smith043]

Do you have a link to print that target?

For some reason I can't find it any more

 

[epags1]

As others have said,...use the cross hairs vertically and horizontally on a target like this:

 

[ELR LVR]

You will discover how bad your bench technique sucks when you get your first high power scope.

when you can shoot standing with a 36x and keep your crosshairs on your target,
your bench technique will exponentially improve

 

[jelenko]

when you can shoot standing with a 36x and keep your crosshairs on your target,

That might be a while.

 

[ELR LVR]

That might be a while.

But when it happens, it will be worth it
My other technique for same results..
Hold your crosshairs on a lone Star in the night sky (use a 24x scope or higher, 36x is best)
At first you will barely be able to keep the star in your sight picture at all
it will move through like a comet as you wiggle
Then your muscles will become trained and little by little you will be able to hold the star in your sight picture
When the moment is perfect, you will squeeze the shot off with the crosshairs aimed at the star
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This is the finest point the furthest distance away I could come up with for standing freehand practice
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Then after all that, you can easily use a 4x or 7x or whatever to shoot game at 100 because you will for sure be able to hold just as still

 

[jelenko]

But when it happens, it will be worth it
My other technique for same results..
Hold your crosshairs on a lone Star in the night sky (use a 24x scope or higher, 36x is best)
At first you will barely be able to keep the star in your sight picture at all
it will move through like a comet as you wiggle
Then your muscles will become trained and little by little you will be able to hold the star in your sight picture
When the moment is perfect, you will squeeze the shot off with the crosshairs aimed at the star
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This is the finest point the furthest distance away I could come up with for standing freehand practice

I've been working on my offhand for 18 years now, still doesn't hold the 6 MOA black bullseye.

 

[ELR LVR]

I've been working on my offhand for 18 years now, still doesn't hold the 6 MOA black bullseye.

Ok, try this then, use a .001"dial indicator on the end of the tip of your barrel
Hold your barrel so that the indicator does not move more than .001-.002"
This is hard because the round needle wants to slip off the round profile of the barrel
but is good because it also causes you to focus just as much on windage movement as much as elevation
Squeeze your shot off so that the needle does not move during your follow through
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This is another method I also practice rifle and pistol
Heres a vid of what I mean there
at 6:38 I demonstrate holding +/- .001" with a pistol while pulling the trigger

 

[jelenko]

Ok, try this then, use a .001"dial indicator on the end of the tip of your barrel
Hold your barrel so that the indicator does not move more than .001-.002"
This is hard because the round needle wants to slip off the round profile of the barrel
but is good because it also causes you to focus just as much on windage movement as much as elevation
Squeeze your shot off so that the needle does not move during your follow through
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This is another method I also practice rifle and pistol
Heres a vid of what I mean there
at 6:38 I demonstrate holding +/- .001" with a pistol while pulling the trigger

Ah. Try that with a rifle.

 

[ELR LVR]

Ah. Try that with a rifle.

I do, it just takes practice, its actually harder with a pistol
(Both hands are straight out in front, being more off balance holding a weighty item,
as opposed to a rifle being in your shoulder, held with right hand midweight plus at the fore end
Providing a more balanced and more secure 3 point contact)
I can't do it with a 15 lb heavy barrel rifle of course,
But I do the same exercise with a long barreled .22
it took a couple months to get there
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the thing about it is, many people just give a few basic fundamentals then tell you to go out and practice a lot
but nobody teaches any techniques to "Gauge" yourself otherwise or good ways to practice at home without expending ammo
dry fire is great but how does a guy know he isn't moving while dry firing
which is why I started using an indicator to gauge my movements until I could control them to that level
anyone could do it
.001" movement translates to approx 1/10th inch at 100 yds with a rifle
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After using my methods I began to be able to start splitting cards (at 20 yds so far)
thats actually only difficult because they are so thin you have to move from side to side to see part of the face,
then barely being able to see that thin line and remember where the card is, then aim at the spot where you remember

 

[TC260]

I think I’ll stick with silhouette shooting

 

[Eric Leonard]

https://www.basspro.com/p/champion-redfield-sight-in-shooting-target

 

[oneraggedhole]

when you can shoot standing with a 36x and keep your crosshairs on your target,
your bench technique will exponentially improve

You are a bad man..... took me 20yrs to get to where I can hit a paper plate at 200 freehand. Deer don't have a chance running full sprint at 200 tho

 

[ELR LVR]

You are a bad man..... took me 20yrs to get to where I can hit a paper plate at 200 freehand. Deer don't have a chance running full sprint at 200 tho

Thats was my practice drill when i was competing with a Factory .17 Rem
Some 23 yrs ago
Because the bullets are so tiny its hard to hit the x, I had to come up with more creative methods
PPC Guys are all like....
Factory rifles aint accurate blah blah blah
Which pissed me off so I said
"Hold my beer.........."
I mean I knew I wasn't gonna keep up with the PPC's
But I did make 'em worry and wonder

 

[oneraggedhole]

Man yeah!!