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6BR LOAD VS 6BRA

Shot my BRX prone rifle Sun. 200-16X with irons on the MR-52 target while fire forming. All 20 shots landed within a 2.25" group. The 16Xs all are in a 1.5" group. Nine of those are in a 1/2" group.It splintered 4 golf tees in that string. Two thousand rnds and it still shoots quarter minute groups.
 
Glad to see this thread is alive and well.
New broom sweeps clean.
New barrel shoots well.
And dont rule out the 6BROS, hard to get info on, very proprietary at this time, game changer for sure.
Carry on.

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6mmbr cases are fun to do R&D with I am going shoot this case this weekend I call mine the 6mmbr vixen.LOL
 

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6mmbr cases are fun to do R&D with I am going shoot this case this weekend I call mine the 6mmbr vixen.LOL
Your gonna have so much fun Stan/ Get some good groups with the nice fresh barrel and shoot a match or two and do well,,l you can make your cartridge famous, you will get tons of requests for the reamer print. Its the nature of the game.
 
Your gonna have so much fun Stan/ Get some good groups with the nice fresh barrel and shoot a match or two and do well,,l you can make your cartridge famous, you will get tons of requests for the reamer print. Its the nature of the game.
Well if this case pan's out I will order a reamer based off of my fired cases an I will have a print number.
 
6BRA or 6BRAI folks, i was told that the 6br is a legit Ackley Imp cartridge, i dont see it listed in his literature???
PO Ackley passed way in 1989 if memory serves, so the 6BR was well established. Where do we see that the 6BR is a legit AI cartridge vs just Imp?
Thx.
No tag line, i am censored now.
 
From Dave Kiff regarding the 6 BR Ackley Imp,

Keith Francis and I used to grind them all the time back in the 80’s and early 90’s. Most of them back then had a .060 freebore. As a matter of fact I remember Herold Broughton building a Barreled Action with that chamber and kicking butt before the Arthritis got to him. When Dan Dowling and I built the first Dasher in 1998 the people used a Wall Dog and the Tall Dog for competition. Mr. Ackley had a print of the 6BR 40* case in his uncompleted volume 3. I was able to get a copy of the memos from the writing from Bevan King, Bevan and Mr. Ackley were close and worked together for many years. I make more Dasher Reamers with the 6MM BRA right behind it and the BRX is in there too. Let me know if you need anything my friend and I’ll get it going for you. Have a good Tuesday and Thank You,,
 
From Dave Kiff regarding the 6 BR Ackley Imp,

Keith Francis and I used to grind them all the time back in the 80’s and early 90’s. Most of them back then had a .060 freebore. As a matter of fact I remember Herold Broughton building a Barreled Action with that chamber and kicking butt before the Arthritis got to him. When Dan Dowling and I built the first Dasher in 1998 the people used a Wall Dog and the Tall Dog for competition. Mr. Ackley had a print of the 6BR 40* case in his uncompleted volume 3. I was able to get a copy of the memos from the writing from Bevan King, Bevan and Mr. Ackley were close and worked together for many years. I make more Dasher Reamers with the 6MM BRA right behind it and the BRX is in there too. Let me know if you need anything my friend and I’ll get it going for you. Have a good Tuesday and Thank You,,

So it was going to be an AI published cartridge but never made it into print or circulated?
 
So it was going to be an AI published cartridge but never made it into print or circulated?
Thats how it sounds to me. Dave Kiff would know more than me.
But its kind of like the 6br Norma, where its was reborn for long range competition by Sam Hall and a couple others that have done it for a few years or longer.
 
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Thanks for confirming my suspicions Alex.

However, it’s a real bummer knowing that based on my skill set, I can’t justify having to get a 6bra. Guess I will have to work overtime to come up with a plausible explanation for the wife.Or just sneak it in on her.
If your wife was a shooter you wouldn't have tht problem. Tony Boyer never had to sneak anything past Faye.
I'm not saying trade wives, just introduce her to shooting (properly!). How could she reject something you love so dearly.
 
Sorry Don, your right.

Your right, pls see inserted comments;
New barrels tend to outperform where the previous ones left off, usually, when its all done correctly and well. So the BR, BRI, Dasher, XC, a fellow gets a hot new BRI and wow, its never been so good.
The comparison of Varget from the standard gospel BR loads is not the correct test basis. In either the BR or BRI (BRA is an outdated term, the reamer mfgs use -I- now, as improved, since Ackely is no more. And this was not one of his cartridge mods.) The correct powder is , here it comes, going public,,,,,, :oops: well dam if i do then all my cronies out here will know the magic and i am playing catch up again, its in the public data/ reloading books and on line resources. But does need to be developed. My reamers are all proprietary as most really good ones are when an effective deign collaboration occurs vs trial and error. So admittedly my reamer, my chamber, hand selected barrels, yes it all adds up and all does matter.
And after all the BRI is such a sex symbol out here all of a sudden, i really don.t want to upset the trend, right now, the trend is my friend. I spent allot on barrels, dam a machine shop, why should i just give all the expensive data and findings away vs reap some more match benefits?????
Now in defense of the BRI i will add that in shorter barrels the few extra grains of powder my help ever so slightly, i dont believe its enough, however, i do use 30" bbls on my 17# bench rifles.
I think you are going to discover/ confirm, that volumetricly there is no meaningful difference between the two cases. Speed or accuracy wise.
Good shooting.
Gary
I wanted to jump in here somewhere so this seemed a likely spot. If you want a cheap sport, might as well keep movin'. If you want a definitve answer, keep movin'. If you only want to spend your money on the final answer to caliber/cartridge keep movin'. HOT TIP This is a game. Nothing serious here.
BUT It has never been better. It has never been easier to shoot well. It has never been harder to get to the top places. I have never had more fun,driven farther, met better people when I got there. A good time CAN be had by all but you gotta be ready to have a good time.
John
 
I wanted to jump in here somewhere so this seemed a likely spot. If you want a cheap sport, might as well keep movin'. If you want a definitve answer, keep movin'. If you only want to spend your money on the final answer to caliber/cartridge keep movin'. HOT TIP This is a game. Nothing serious here.
BUT It has never been better. It has never been easier to shoot well. It has never been harder to get to the top places. I have never had more fun,driven farther, met better people when I got there. A good time CAN be had by all but you gotta be ready to have a good time.
John

Words well spent. And true that. I have been having fun chasing miss accuracy in my back yard for years now. I think I can see her in sight.
thanks Don ;]
 
If your wife was a shooter you wouldn't have tht problem. Tony Boyer never had to sneak anything past Faye.
I'm not saying trade wives, just introduce her to shooting (properly!). How could she reject something you love so dearly.

John, you are kidding, right? Would not trade her for the world. But no chance she will be shooting or deer hunting in this life. I can get her to go fishing every once in a while. She pays closer attention than I thought. She noticed my new gun a few days ago and said it was “nice.”
 
Words well spent. And true that. I have been having fun chasing miss accuracy in my back yard for years now. I think I can see her in sight.
thanks Don ;]
Hey Don, Soooo right. My wife and I chased her around the block a few years b4 getting into competition (1991). It's never been about winning but about the journey among good (ne, GREAT) people and doing your best. Keep going. Success is just over the rise.
John
 
From what I have gathered the 6br is no match for the 6ppc at 100 and 200.
But further than that it is a different story.
Yabut what about an 6BR with an 80gr bullet.Dint think about that dija? Well think about it and report back.
 

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