My tolerence to extreme recoil via .300 Winchester Magnum, has been grossly under-played, yet such is not true for many shooters. This is caliber/powder volumn to be seriously reckoned with by most weekend shooters! While a .30/06 Springfield maximum load can be handled by some shooters, extending that recoil pain causes many shooter to become flinchers. Flinching and 600 yard shooting does not make good bed-fellows. Flinchers tend to jerk triggers, and nothing taught can reduce flinching once begun. Flinching is difficult to cure, until reduced down in power of recoil to PROPER managability of recoil, and then after much rangetime with a lighter caliber and load. Working backwards as it were, I've managed to create some great 200 yard shooters who were previously over-bitten by massive recoil. Proficient Magnum shooters need not reply. Cliffy
?? 600 YARD DEER KILLER ??
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You can always put a break on your rifle.
I know most hunters like to hear everything. I always wear one ear plug and have a push in type tied to my hat so I can just push it in when I need to shoot.
I know a lot of guys would rather have a heavier rifle or take the hit when they pull the trigger. I ask why? With this rifle a 600 yd shot is almost easy. Granted it is not for everyone. Bigger rounds only make it easier to shoot 600.
I know most hunters like to hear everything. I always wear one ear plug and have a push in type tied to my hat so I can just push it in when I need to shoot.
I know a lot of guys would rather have a heavier rifle or take the hit when they pull the trigger. I ask why? With this rifle a 600 yd shot is almost easy. Granted it is not for everyone. Bigger rounds only make it easier to shoot 600.
farmview, I started like you,( a half dozen years ago) I had the desire to extend my range and took to the whole precision shooting thing. What I ended up doing was building a 260AI but now I have replaced it with a standard 260 rem(among others 
). I shot the gun a ton in field positions, bipod and rear beenie bag all summer getting my skill level up and learning my dope. One of my early realizations that this was all doable was when I shot 3 crows out of the same tree with 3 bullets at 420 yards early one summer morning. I practice shooting dirt clods and cantelopes out to 750 yards, dealing with different wind conditions just to see what effects they had on my ability to hit.
What some of the naysayers, the do not participaters and other skeptics all say about long range hunting is the issues of,"no sighters, varying conditions, animal moves" these are all valid points. BUT what they don't understand is you can walk away from any and all shots that present themselves. Target and match shooters go to a event and MUST shoot in the conditions they are delt.
The truly successful LRH know the limits of equipment and self. They take their shot when conditions are with-in their ability. Walking away from a dificult shot is not a loss in LRH. Your ability to hit your target will be the determining factor in the yardages you choose to hunt.
That little 260AI of mine took 13 whitetail, mule deer and antelope in it's first 3 years, 3 of which were over 600 yards and only 2 were under 300. One miss was recorded in that time, due to a ranging error. That resulted in an equipment upgrade.
If you practice, gain the skills, have good equipment and are capable of declining a marginal shot, their is no reason not to take advantage of the potential of modern rifles. It's definetly not for everyone, and that is as it should be.
Jim
). I shot the gun a ton in field positions, bipod and rear beenie bag all summer getting my skill level up and learning my dope. One of my early realizations that this was all doable was when I shot 3 crows out of the same tree with 3 bullets at 420 yards early one summer morning. I practice shooting dirt clods and cantelopes out to 750 yards, dealing with different wind conditions just to see what effects they had on my ability to hit.What some of the naysayers, the do not participaters and other skeptics all say about long range hunting is the issues of,"no sighters, varying conditions, animal moves" these are all valid points. BUT what they don't understand is you can walk away from any and all shots that present themselves. Target and match shooters go to a event and MUST shoot in the conditions they are delt.
The truly successful LRH know the limits of equipment and self. They take their shot when conditions are with-in their ability. Walking away from a dificult shot is not a loss in LRH. Your ability to hit your target will be the determining factor in the yardages you choose to hunt.
That little 260AI of mine took 13 whitetail, mule deer and antelope in it's first 3 years, 3 of which were over 600 yards and only 2 were under 300. One miss was recorded in that time, due to a ranging error. That resulted in an equipment upgrade.
If you practice, gain the skills, have good equipment and are capable of declining a marginal shot, their is no reason not to take advantage of the potential of modern rifles. It's definetly not for everyone, and that is as it should be.
Jim
hi, If you are not recoil sensitive I would recommend a 300 Winchester mag. with a 26 to 28 in barrel. Load it with a 165 grain Nosler partition at about 3200 fps. Learn to use your scope, dual plex or mildot. Learn your drop and tof(time of flight) from several sources. I hunt in Texas, open fields and plains and have killed deer at more than 1/2 mile clocked in a pickup truck. The 300 is very effective and easy to learn with a little practice. You can load it down to practice 125, 110 grain plinkers with little recoil. Ps the 165 grains seems to give much less recoil than the 180 and up bullet weights in my Ruger #1. Just my opinion of 35 years with the 300 Win Mag.
If you have the time to practice is a major key to 600 yard shooting at live creatures. Yes, anything is possible, but some things don't come easy. To sell a neophite a rifle package and tell him or her, it's a 600 yard producer of deer, is wrong, wrong, wrong! 600 yards takes LOTS of practice, of which most people will not spend the time or expense to learn. Most hunters who practice once before deer season are generally not capable of killing shoots beyond 300 yards. I work every fall as a sighting adjuster for anyone interested, and I assist many hunters to get inside a 12" ring at 100 yards, and some even farther off than that. 600 yard deer hunting requires a skill level far above the norm. Cliffy
Recoil resistance and super-power are cool, but accuracy takes the venison everytime. Smashing the ground or toppling a sapling five feet away from one's intended target garners no meat for the skillet. At least, this amazing power rarely wounds animals that will never be retrieved except by wolves and worms. Cliffy
Thank Goodness for intelligent people! To merely say, "Know your limits" means nothing to a neophite who does not know what his or her limits are YET. Regardless of rifle, scope, or boldness, once one wounds and loses an animal, all this posting will make a world of sense. My uncle once fired as a deer jumped, and to this day he still hears the deer's screams as he shot both front legs off at the knees. This true scenario can happen to anyone, so no one can be so smug as to think "It only happens to the other guy." Cliffy
that's gruesome not funny ya sadist. ;D
Erik Cortina
Team Lapua Brux Borden Captain
Coleridge said:Wasn't saying it was funny he wounded the deer. Just REALLY funny he still hears his screams
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If he still hears the deer screams, he should really go finish him off and put the deer out of his misery! ;D
Erik Cortina
Team Lapua Brux Borden Captain
Or get some ear plugs! ;D
Ok guys, that's enough fun with that!
You need to be 100% sure you can make the shot on game before you attempt it, it would make me sick to my stomach to wound an animal because of lack of preparation!
-Erik
Ok guys, that's enough fun with that!
You need to be 100% sure you can make the shot on game before you attempt it, it would make me sick to my stomach to wound an animal because of lack of preparation!
-Erik
Yes, I'm back from total hip joint replacement surgery, and I barely screamed due to great drugs and a great surgeon. I'm back at the "Y" exercising, fishing begins Friday, and I already shot at the range last week. Four weeks, start to finish is possibly quicker recovery than average, but I'm back in the game. Will all this fine recovery make me a 600 yard deer shooter? Cliffy
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New myself (here) so my 2 cents isnt worth much to many but, that said, Jim hit this on the nose.
Regardless of choice of round, gun...or any OTHER choice of hunting weapon, there is a combination of the shooter's limitations coupled with the capabilities of their choice in equipment that not only needs to be strictly adhered to but JUST as important, that limitation must be FOUND.
Most here have said so as much talking about PRACTICING and feel the post editor realizes this.
I WOULDNT take such shots with some of the rounds suggested but that is dictated by MY limitations only.
With the superior bullets , powders and the accuracy most really GOOD guns are capable of today, it's not NORMALLY the weapon that is the limiting factor.
One only has to go out here in IN and see uh "hunters" making or attempting to make slug guns into 300 yard deer guns to quickly realize that some flat aren't paying attention NOR do they go out before season and find out what their limitations ARE.
Some here can wax a deer at 600 yards,with a good rest, and a gun and caliber they are VERY familiar with. One only has to do a bit of searching online to see others doing so WAY past 600 yards. Unfortunalely the "average" deer hunter seems to think those tasks are easy and anyone can do it.
IMHO, not many REALLY have or will take the time needed nor have the funds to invest in REALLY long range hunting guns, but yes it "can be done".
Regardless of the range, or game you seek, your own limitations need to be tested and tested and IMPROVED with practice, experience judging range, and knowing what YOUR round and bullet WILL DO.........when you do your part.
God Bless.
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