6.5x47 vs Creedmoor

[Judd]

For some reason I have this urge to have my smith build me a 6.5x47. I have a Creedmoor and I love it. My question is do they overlap so much that I won't shoot one of them? I keep hearing the 6.5x47 is so much more inheirently accurate than the Creedmoor, is this true?

Reason I am asking is the smith already has a Tikka action of mine and I am trying to decide between a 6.5x47 or a hotrod 6mm, meaning something that shoots a 115 over 3000fps.

Just brainstorming and interested in what y'all think.

 

[Cort]

Judd,

There is an article on the web comparing the 260 Remington, the 6.5 Creedmore and the 6.5 x 47. I think the bottom line was that there really isn't much difference between the 3 chamberings. If I can find the link, I will post it for you. This question has been posted here before so you may want to do a search on the forum.

Cort

 

[jsimonh]

FWIW, I have a buddy that has a x47L that he loves but when the barrel goes he will be replacing it with a creedmoor.

 

[Cort]

Look at this site. I like the thought.

http://www.6mmar.com/260_Imp_30_.php

Cort

 

[.260 james]

Judd,

There is an article on the web comparing the 260 Remington, the 6.5 Creedmore and the 6.5 x 47. I think the bottom line was that there really isn't much difference between the 3 chamberings. If I can find the link, I will post it for you. This question has been posted here before so you may want to do a search on the forum.

Cort

http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/
In the article there is an update that states , with lapua brass available and Reloder 17 the .260 is the better of the three........... Amen! At least as far as a field, steel ,or hunting round.

 

[Judd]

I read that when I decided on the Creedmoor, at the time I chose it because I thought I wanted to shoot tacticool stuff but when actually shot some stuff I decided that wasn't what I wanted to do but instead shoot benchrest at steel and clays...not a paper puncher, just doesn't do a thing for me.

Since then it appears most of the guys shoot 6.5x47's and I have never seen a Creedmoor shooting. So I asked the guys shooting them why and they felt like the 6.5x47's was a more accurate round. I guess what I wondered is that true? I know there is a lot of the smith that decides how accurate the gun vs gun is but inherently is the 47 a more accurate round?

 

[6pt-sika]

Judd,

There is an article on the web comparing the 260 Remington, the 6.5 Creedmore and the 6.5 x 47. I think the bottom line was that there really isn't much difference between the 3 chamberings. If I can find the link, I will post it for you. This question has been posted here before so you may want to do a search on the forum.

Cort

http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/
In the article there is an update that states , with lapua brass available and Reloder 17 the .260 is the better of the three........... Amen! At least as far as a field, steel ,or hunting round.

I've owned a 260 REM since it's "factory" inception and you've known the rifle for most of those years !

Now with that being said , personally I'd like 2 rifles in each cartridge

One in each cartridge like my little Model 7 260 that you know and then all three chambered in more shall we say a longe range hunting configuration . Meaning synthetic stocks , Stillar actions and something along the lines of a #4 or larger stainless fluted barrels with muzzle brakes . No don't really need muzzle brakes but if one is dreaming WTF !

 

[6pt-sika]

I will say this .

At my club we have several what I'll call informal bench rest shooters and out of those with 6.5mm's we have the following ;

1- 260 REM (me)
1- 6.5 WSSM
1- 6.5x55 (me)
1- 6.5-06 (me)
1- 264 WIN MAG (me)
0- 6.5mm Lapua (at the moment but I hope to change that soon)
7- 6.5 Creedmoor (and of those 7 2 are Stoner bench guns , ones a Cooper and the rest are all factory Savage guns with one being a LRH )
1- 6.5-06AI
1- 6.5x284

 

[6pt-sika]

And back to the original question if it were me wanting to build the gun I'd most likely go with the Lapua or possibly a 6mmx284 . Or a 6mm-06 or a 6.5x284 or or the list goes on !

Bottom line is there are to many cartridges to choose from and to few years left to wring them all out :'(

 

[Judd]

Thanks...seems as if I'm getting fed a load ;D

 

[flatlander]

Judd,
I've built myself four 6.5x47s over the past several years, including an AR10 on DPMS receivers with a 28" Krieger. Next 6.5 was an Eliseo RTS built around a Pierce TG action, with a 28" Krieger in Rem varmint/sendero contour. Then came a prone rifle on a BAT 3L in a McGee prone stock done on a really nice English walnut blank, with a 30" Bartlein med. Palma. Next was a tactical rig built on a new bare M700 from Brownells, with a 26" fluted Krieger in med. Palma, bedded in a Russo L5 stock. Finally, just this last spring, I got a DTA SRS chassis with a DTA 6.5x47 conversion kit.

I run Hornady, Lapua, & Sierra 123s in the AR10, tactical 700, and the DTA. The RTS & BAT shoot Berger 130 VLDs & 140 LR BTs equally well when loaded with RL17. Accuracy nodes with the 130s are at just over 2900fps, and just over 2800 with the 140s. I've shot three seasons worth of XC matches with the RTS, and feel the 6.5x47 is an excellent XC cartridge - very accurate, with mild recoil. I've also shot several 1000yd any rifle matches at Ben Avery in Phoenix with the BAT, sticking with the 130s in this bbl. Sure, there are chamberings that'll shoot well inside the little 6.5x47 in the wind, but it holds really tight vertical spreads, and again, is very pleasant to shoot over the course of a full day of shooting.

I've never shot a 6.5 Creedmoor, and probably never will, unless for some reason the 6.5x47 brass would suddenly become unavailable. There's too little difference between the two for it to make any sense for me to sell off any of my 6.5 Lapuas just to try a Creedmoor. More or less the same situation with the 260 - I've got a couple of 6.5x55 AIs, so if I wanted a 6.5 with more power than the Lapua, I'd just shoot one of the AIs.

Far as I'm concerned, the only downside to the Lapua is the price of the brass - but that's tempered somewhat by the excellent quality. I've never felt the need to do more than minimal case prep for the 6.5, even out to 1000. I've read comments from shooters who didn't like the Lapua due to there being only one source of brass, but the same's true of the Creedmoor, and if you're only going to use Lapua 260 brass in a 260. Pick your poison - they're all three pretty good cartridges - I just happened to get started with the Lapua, and have seen no reason to switch.

 

[the punisher]

this is the reason I love to shoot, there is some many options.....I started out with a 260 Rem, then got a 6.5x264 Savage F-class (dominates factory class at my club) and just traded for a Savage 12 LRP in 6.5 creedmoor. I think there is no wrong choice when it comes to a 6.5 size round, they all will shoot!

 

[6pt-sika]

this is the reason I love to shoot, there is some many options.....I started out with a 260 Rem, then got a 6.5x264 Savage F-class (dominates factory class at my club) and just traded for a Savage 12 LRP in 6.5 creedmoor. I think there is no wrong choice when it comes to a 6.5 size round, they all will shoot!

This is a VERY RARE THING !

I actually totally AGREE with someone on one of these d..a..m..n forums !

But I gotta say I agree with "punisher" about 99.5% . Yeah it can't be 100% that just wouldn't be me

 

[6pt-sika]

Heck I still think the best "option" is to have guns set up in the same format and one for each of the following at the same time !

260 REM
6.5 Creedmoor
6.5x47 Lapua
6.5x55
6.5x57

Heck make two sets , one set up for bench/longe range and the other set up like a factory Remington Model 7 nice and light for treestands or toting around bunFnowhere !

 

[6pt-sika]

Believe it or not I used to be this wound up about 7mm's about 20 years ago !

 

[6pt-sika]

FWIW as far as a deer killer is concerned I've taken more deer with a 260 REM then any other cartridge . The 7mm REM MAG is in second (used to have a REM 700 Sendero stainless fluted that was "The Pooh" as 260James says) , ny third highest total is with the 264 WIN MAG and the majority of those were killed with a circa 1960 Winchester Pre 64 Model 70 Westerner .

When I can lay my hands on a decently priced used Ruger #1A in 6.5 Creedmoor I'm gonna grab it . My thinking is that'll make a fine deer rifle for the little lady and an excellent option since she happens to be a south paw .

 

[the punisher]

Heck I still think the best "option" is to have guns set up in the same format and one for each of the following at the same time !

260 REM
6.5 Creedmoor
6.5x47 Lapua
6.5x55
6.5x57

Heck make two sets , one set up for bench/longe range and the other set up like a factory Remington Model 7 nice and light for treestands or toting around bunFnowhere !

I have a Rem 700 action and a burning desire for a 6.5 hunting rifle (all that I have weigh over 14lbs) so dont worry, I have a plan!

 

[6pt-sika]

Heck I still think the best "option" is to have guns set up in the same format and one for each of the following at the same time !

260 REM
6.5 Creedmoor
6.5x47 Lapua
6.5x55
6.5x57

Heck make two sets , one set up for bench/longe range and the other set up like a factory Remington Model 7 nice and light for treestands or toting around bunFnowhere !

I have a Rem 700 action and a burning desire for a 6.5 hunting rifle (all that I have weigh over 14lbs) so dont worry, I have a plan!

Dude , please do not think I'm tryin to tellya what to do . However if your 700 is a LA give some SERIOUSE consideration to the plain vanilla 6.5-06 with about a Shilen #4 stainless barrel !
As my buddy 260James would say "thats the POOH" !

 

[the punisher]

Don't worry, I'm just in the early planning stage....but I like your 6.5 thinking!

 

[6pt-sika]

Well my friend that has the Savage Model 11 LRH in 6.5 Creedmoor just told me to get him a Savage Model 11 LRP also in 6.5 Creedmoor .