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22/250 for deer

there is no perfect round. I will say, that no enemy soldier I ever shot in RVN with my M-16 or M-203 ever complained. Or got back up.

I have a great-niece, that is about five-two and 95 lbs; that has shot her deer every year in Oregon since 2011 with the factory 64gr Winchester factory 22-250 load; and never had to shoot a second time, or track them more than a few yards. She is a good shot, and fussy about the shots she takes. Her Father uses a Mauser 98 custom in 300 WM. His are not any deader. Bullet placement is the answer...
i eat alot of deer meat,we make all kinds of stuff with it.i have shot a lot of deer with 223's and 220swift.i use them on deer damage permits.longest shot with 223 was 300yards.bag flop,right through the hart.longest shot with 220 was 350 same thing drt neck shot.i use 55gr nosler bt's.
 
For 5-6 years out of high school, the only rifle I had to hunt with was a 22-250.
Used plain Jane, Hornady 55 gr spire points for everything from deer to prairie dogs.
I don't use a 22-250, but a few friends of mine do. The 55 grain Hornady is lethal on whitetails and other similar sized critters. I use a Swift. Barlow
 
I think if you check with some of the Viet Nam era folks you might find that the "rat rifle" did not stop the enemy in his/her tracks even with the tumbling bullet factor..... multiple shots into the thorax perhaps but one.... not so much...... necessarily. I also understand from some desert folks that the same is still true.

The Designated Marksmen folks shooting other than 223 rounds seem to do OK...

Maybe I am all wrong but not from what I know. Just sayin....... a bag of water human with a totally different pain structure is different than a deer or lope and it did not always work on the humans........ 30-06 (WWII and through VN) and 308 on the other hand did quite a bit better.

Just some thoughts.......

Bruce A. Hering
Program Coordinator/Lead Instructor (retired)
Shotgun Team Coach
Southeastern Illinois College
SCTP Collegiate Coaches Chairman
NSCA Level III
The difference is a hunting bullet vs a fmj. A injured soldier takes several soldiers to help him, a dead one requires no one.
 
I think if you check with some of the Viet Nam era folks you might find that the "rat rifle" did not stop the enemy in his/her tracks even with the tumbling bullet factor..... multiple shots into the thorax perhaps but one.... not so much...... necessarily. I also understand from some desert folks that the same is still true.

The Designated Marksmen folks shooting other than 223 rounds seem to do OK...

Maybe I am all wrong but not from what I know. Just sayin....... a bag of water human with a totally different pain structure is different than a deer or lope and it did not always work on the humans........ 30-06 (WWII and through VN) and 308 on the other hand did quite a bit better.

Just some thoughts.......

Bruce A. Hering
Program Coordinator/Lead Instructor (retired)
Shotgun Team Coach
Southeastern Illinois College
SCTP Collegiate Coaches Chairman
NSCA Level III
Hunters aren't hampered by the Hague conventions. Controlled expansion bullets from a .22 cal are very effective. I like the 65 gr Gameking from a 223, but for the higher velocity of the 22-250, the 62 or 70 Barnes are guaranteed to hold together.
 
there is no perfect round. I will say, that no enemy soldier I ever shot in RVN with my M-16 or M-203 ever complained. Or got back up.

I have a great-niece, that is about five-two and 95 lbs; that has shot her deer every year in Oregon since 2011 with the factory 64gr Winchester factory 22-250 load; and never had to shoot a second time, or track them more than a few yards. She is a good shot, and fussy about the shots she takes. Her Father uses a Mauser 98 custom in 300 WM. His are not any deader. Bullet placement is the answer...


I have edited out that post. I was going on what I have been told.... my bad. I agree on the right bullet in the right place......

Bruce A. Hering
Program Coordinator/Lead Instructor (retired)
Shotgun Team Coach
Southeastern Illinois College
SCTP Collegiate Coaches Chairman
NSCA Level III
 
It dont matter what bullet you use when you shoot em in the head.

Very true. I have shot many in the head. LHsmith will come on and give us some story about how much deer move. His attitudes comes with how he hunts. I do not remember him ever stating how he hunts.

As I have said over and over. We need to decide how we harvest deer. What works for me will not work for others and vice versa.
 
Very true. I have shot many in the head. LHsmith will come on and give us some story about how much deer move. His attitudes comes with how he hunts. I do not remember him ever stating how he hunts.

As I have said over and over. We need to decide how we harvest deer. What works for me will not work for others and vice versa.


Saves meat and dont blood shot anything. Neck shots work the same way. I do all I can to not mess up meat... but I will say you goota be able to trust your gun and load. Sucks to blow off a jaw on a deer. I shot 22 250 for years doing head and neck shots..
Im not a fan of 22 cal bullets 223, 222, 22 250 etc in the shoulder... jmo.
 
Up until recently Wyoming didn’t allow 22 caliber. We can now use them for deer and antelope along with things like wolves and lions, as long as they meet certain criteria, like shooting at least a 60gr projectile.

At reasonable hunting distance a fast 22 with a heavy bullet doesn’t give up much if anything to a 6mm. I’m having a 9 twist 223ai built right now setup for my suppressor. I can see my boys using it when they start hunting antelope and deer with me. Based on prior experience 62gr Barnes TTSX will be the bullet I use for 22 cal big game hunting, unless they come out with a 70 or 75 TTSX.

If you haven't already built it, you might try and substitute in an 8twist. It will give you a little more stability and allow you to run the 75 amax and 77TMK's, reliably.
Have 9tw and a 7tw, and I never really was very happy with the 9tw with bullets over 60gns. It now has a solid diet of 60gn NBT's and the 7tw runs 77tmk's and 80.5gn Bergers into bugholes.

It's a fine cartridge to get the little ones and recoil sensitive folks into centerfire.
 
Try a 62 gr Barnes. Deer don't like it & complete penetration. I have shot them with 60 gr Partitions and 64 gr Power Points and they die BUT the Barnes is much better.
 
I see that between all of us there has been a lot of success stories with fast .22 center fires. I have used 22-250 and .223 WSSM and what I like is the 55 gr ballistic tip by nosler. Especially in the WSSM. It hits with authority and you hear a whack that you don't with the heavier Bullets.

Most of you probably hunt bigger deer than I. I live in south east Alaska where the Sitka Blacktail lives. 12 mile boat ride to Prince of Wales island where the biggest ones are and the B&C non typical record came from. Anyway they are big for the species.

I'm going to hunt this rut and maybe next summer alpine August velvet hunt with my Tac 20. I have an accurate 40gr ballistic tip load going 3850 fps.

I will report how it goes..,
 
I moved my pictures around on my phone but i finally found the 460 yard shot from earlier this year.
53gr Nosler Varmageddon at 3750 FPS with CFE223 in the 22" .22-250. 3825FPS shot better but was beating up the brass pretty bad.
I shot it out to 600 yards and got a good drop chart going then went out to farms.

This was the longest shot this year with it and it did very well. This is the entrance side.

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Later i was trying out the 73gr ELDM in a 20" 223 AR and it shot very well at 1000 yards so i took it one evening and took a doe with it at 652 yards. She made it about 25-30 yards before going down dead. Had a pass through and a decent blood trail from the small bullet.
 
I moved my pictures around on my phone but i finally found the 460 yard shot from earlier this year.
53gr Nosler Varmageddon at 3750 FPS with CFE223 in the 22" .22-250. 3825FPS shot better but was beating up the brass pretty bad.
I shot it out to 600 yards and got a good drop chart going then went out to farms.

This was the longest shot this year with it and it did very well. This is the entrance side.

WunRszL.jpg




Later i was trying out the 73gr ELDM in a 20" 223 AR and it shot very well at 1000 yards so i took it one evening and took a doe with it at 652 yards. She made it about 25-30 yards before going down dead. Had a pass through and a decent blood trail from the small bullet.
Whaaatt? You actually shot the gun and had a drop chart. You didn't shoot two shots to make sure it was on the paper then go hunting. Crazy, just crazy someone would learn their gun before making a 400yd shot. Good job
 
Whaaatt? You actually shot the gun and had a drop chart. You didn't shoot two shots to make sure it was on the paper then go hunting. Crazy, just crazy someone would learn their gun before making a 400yd shot. Good job
:D
Ive burnt a few barrels out before...
But i do zero rifles for some buddys and then they think they can go out and shoot a deer with their new "BDC" scope at 600 yards. Never mind wind and all that unnecessary stuff. The book said the 5th dot was for 600 yards so it must be true.
 
26" Brux 8" twist barrel is what is on my 22-243 AI ... shooting 80gr amax bullets at 3550 fps.... and they drop deer in their tracks. I've shot a few bucks and does between 80- 250 yds... in the shoulders and and they all dropped... have not tried behind the shoulder. I shoot on the shoulder so they will drop on the logging road that they cross. The Bullet does not pass through... and barely touches the other shoulder... but the inside is jello. I did shoot a doe at 40 yds behind the shoulder, she ran about 40 yds, but that was the bloodiest trail I have ever seen. I measured the brush and limbs past the impact spot where she was shot, and the blood sprayed 12 ft on her exit side... I couldn't get over that because my 30/06 never made blood sprays like that.

I built this rifle for long range coyotes...which is my REAL PASSION... which it works on very well... but it also doubles as a very good deer killing machine.
 

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