1 MOA Guarantee

[Flouncer]

I thought a "group" was 10 shots.

 

[DShortt]

And you believe a attorney. They take drama classes to learn how to play the people/jury in court rooms.

Heck, go to a range and make the same offer. Maybe it'll be a YouTube sensation and you'll make a bunch of money. I've no idea how that stuff works but if it's possible some company could sell a bunch of rifles.

 

[DShortt]

I thought a "group" was 10 shots.

Put up 10 shots within an inch on 3 different days with a factory rifle and Factory ammunition and you'll be my new Hero.

For that matter, do it once and I'll definitely take notice.

 

[Flouncer]

Put up 10 shots within an inch on 3 different days with a factory rifle and Factory ammunition and you'll be my new Hero.

Not all heroes wear capes !! Edit: I think. Not sure. My Tikka (2015) came with a 3-hole paper target. It was right at one inch center to center. No mention of any guarantee though.

 

[DShortt]

Not all heroes wear capes !!

I don't care if you wear a cape or tighty-whities. I'd just like to see someone accomplish that.

 

[M-61]

This is from a few years ago, but creates a different situation. Savage LRPV 6BR RBLP
Had to buy factory ammo. Lapua, as l had nothing to load.
Mounted a scope, cleaned the barrel, sighted it in.
Don’t recall but maybe 4 shots to sight in. This is the next target it shot. Problem? You bet. I hoped my hand loads could duplicate this. And this is a 5 shot group at 100 yards.
Post # 28 is pic
My computer skills suck

 

[Ccrider]

Where you is? Might take you up on that.

Wait. A .17? Probably not unless you're really close by.

Yep. A 17 wsm. Shoots pretty darn good. Roll Tide ALABAMA!

 

[M-61]

 

[Bottom Fodder]

Yep. A 17 wsm. Shoots pretty darn good. Roll Tide ALABAMA!

RTR

 

[DShortt]

Not all heroes wear capes !! Edit: I think. Not sure. My Tikka (2015) came with a 3-hole paper target. It was right at one inch center to center. No mention of any guarantee though.

That's 3. You said 10.

 

[M-61]

Most of shooters I see at the range every October for their annual sight in couldn’t shoot 1 MOA with any rifle or ammo.

Actually I stay away from any range in October.
Sort of like going to a boat ramp on a Saturday morning. But with a huge fear factor figured in.

 

[Mark W]

I can consistently shoot under 1moa with my custom shop RPR and it's not even difficult to do so. It feels like cheating sometimes. It's not a hunting rifle, but it is a factory off the shelf rifle

However, I also have a Howa 1500 Oryx, which has a sub moa guarantee, and I struggle to get 1moa with that thing.

My 1st Gen RPR chambered in .243 Win was still averaging well under one moa with the throat shot out before I barrel swapped the factory barrel out for one of Urban Rifleman’s barrels chambered in 6XC. I don’t think I ever fired a factory round it it though.

 

[DShortt]

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This is from a few years ago, but creates a different situation. Savage LRPV 6BR RBLP
Had to buy factory ammo. Lapua, as l had nothing to load.
Mounted a scope, cleaned the barrel, sighted it in.
Don’t recall but maybe 4 shots to sight in. This is the next target it shot. Problem? You bet. I hoped my hand loads could duplicate this. And this is a 5 shot group at 100 yards.
Post # 28 is pic
My computer skills suck

Do it again with 5 shots. That's the challenge.

Not trying to pick on you, that's good shooting.

 

[DShortt]

Actually I stay away from any range in October.
Sort of like going to a boat ramp on a Saturday morning. But with a huge fear factor figured in.

Treat it like the boat ramp. Stay a safe distance back in a comfortable spot and just take in the shenanigans.

 

[Clancy]

I think the only few sub moa factory on factory rifles I’ve seen were a Bergara HMR pro, a weatherby of all things, and a Winchester model 70.

Other than that, most of them struggled to get 3 in an inch and the 5 shots in 1.8” is definitely believable.

Oh, my little CZ 527 would do 5/8 or so with black hills match, after bedding and a new crown, which obviously doesn’t count.

 

[M-61]

Do it again with 5 shots. That's the challenge.

Not trying to pick on you, that's good shooting.

That is 5 shots. Or do you mean 5 five shot groups?
I shouldn’t have mentioned 4 shots to sight it it but if my count was correct you’re looking at shots number 5,6,7,8,9. I was quite pleased and after that box of Lapua was used empty brass was available.
Like I said it was a number of years ago. Actually it was the last factory rifle I bought. From then on it’s been Savage actions and switch barrels.

 

[M-61]

I thought a "group" was 10 shots.

This was the last 10 shot group I shot. Long time ago and as far from a factory rifle as you can get.

 

[Steel Mover]

You know how to tell if an attorney is lying, his lips are moving. My buddy from the 101st is an attorney in a chair from CA, he collects attorney jokes.....has some beauties.

 

[dryhumor]

Factory Tikka, Sako ammo, 2 different stocks, couple of months apart. Five shot group was in a Bell Carlson, 3 shot was back in the factory stock. Off bags. The factory stock shot a bit higher.



About the only factory ammo I’ve found to be 1 MOA or less through the years is Federal 168 GMM. And even it isn’t always that in some rifles.

ETA No scope adjustment. My hand load I was working shoots to the right. I was surprised that the factory ammo was centered when I shot it.

 

[DShortt]

That is 5 shots. Or do you mean 5 five shot groups?
I shouldn’t have mentioned 4 shots to sight it it but if my count was correct you’re looking at shots number 5,6,7,8,9. I was quite pleased and after that box of Lapua was used empty brass was available.
Like I said it was a number of years ago. Actually it was the last factory rifle I bought. From then on it’s been Savage actions and switch barrels.

Sorry for the confusion. I meant on more than one outing.

It's a high bar for a factory rifle and factory ammunition. I'm not picking on you.