Word would get around quick if they were fighting legal battles over their products. More likely they aren't in violation of patents, patents are expired, or there was no patent protection to begin with.
New Hornady Priming Tool - bench mount, looks familiar
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Word would get around quick if they were fighting legal battles over their products. More likely they aren't in violation of patents, patents are expired, or there was no patent protection to begin with.
Gary O'Neal
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I’ve been reloading for 53 years and I’ve learned that “wait and see” is usually the best policy.
Gary O'Neal
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I’m not particularly high on Hornady products, but I might be impressed with a $300 primer seater vs the $600+ Primal Rights version. Just saying.
ridgeway
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Haha...or a $50 K&M
Nice, but I'm still using one of these;
www.midwayusa.com
works great on a single stage press for doing bottle neck cases.
Lee Auto Prime 2 Press Mounted Priming Tool
The Lee Auto Prime 2 Press Mounted Priming Tool is an essential tool to have for a more sensitive feel while seating primers safely, quickly and...
www.midwayusa.com
works great on a single stage press for doing bottle neck cases.
I'll stick with my RCBS bench prime.
PeaShooter
Silver $$ Contributor
I agree. The one copied is priced so excessively that folks will buy the Versa Prime. I have a friend that bought the $700 version and he said it was over $1k once you buy the tubes and vibrator to load the primers. Another example of a copied tool is the Prazi Press and its three pillar design. Seems like every manufacture is now selling a version of this press.
They been doing it for years. Most of their cartridges appear to be very similar to other rounds. They reinvent the wheel and marketing sells it. This primer tool will still vary seating depth and crush based on the rim thickness variation.
They sure jacked the Henderson trimmer. ARC cartridges are a minor variation of the PPC etc
It sure seems like Hornady’s company mantra is “We may be a great Imitator, but we’ll sue you to maintain the appearance of being an industry-leading Innovator.” I keep waiting to hear how they’ve moved / outsourced their customer service hotline to China so that it’s in same building as their R&D and Manufacturing facility.
I would be thrilled if they would refocus their effort on QC and start manufacturing ammunition with tolerances closer to SAAMI specs.
I would be thrilled if they would refocus their effort on QC and start manufacturing ammunition with tolerances closer to SAAMI specs.
TommyD11730
Silver $$ Contributor
This post sums up how I feel too.
pertnear
Silver $$ Contributor
At 74, I've been reloading since I was a teenager. When I started everyone primed on their press & there were few other options. Then the hand priming tools hit & manufacturers started proliferating these with their own version. I bought into the proclaimed notion, that to be an accurate handloader, you had to develop that "feel" of a properly seated primer - which was only possible to achieve with a low-leverage hand tool.
Now target competition is intense & the distances are mind-blowing! I understand the quest for the ultimate handloading process to build the most precise & repeatable ammo that can be made. An extremely expensive priming tool is well worth the price if it eliminates one more variable of concern & adds confidence to the shooter. Yet when priming, I still here the word "feel" being used. It seems like all the expensive precision tools can't measure or compensate for tightness, depth, pellet-crush, etc. So this all leads us back to the "feel". So once you learn the feel, wouldn't one of those early Lee hand primers be just as good?
Now target competition is intense & the distances are mind-blowing! I understand the quest for the ultimate handloading process to build the most precise & repeatable ammo that can be made. An extremely expensive priming tool is well worth the price if it eliminates one more variable of concern & adds confidence to the shooter. Yet when priming, I still here the word "feel" being used. It seems like all the expensive precision tools can't measure or compensate for tightness, depth, pellet-crush, etc. So this all leads us back to the "feel". So once you learn the feel, wouldn't one of those early Lee hand primers be just as good?
I've seen a video from Buffalo bore a while back about hornady doing basically the same thing to him. Don't know what is the truth but seems like they have a history of doing this. I don't have a dog in the fight just an observation.
NF1E
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Been trying out a bunch of priming tools recently. So far my favorite is also the least expensive. The Lyman Accu-Prime added on top of a short Inling fabrication base with changeable tops is fantastic. I too don't mind the slow one at a time priming routine. Lyman tells me my auto feed should be here in November. Looking forward to trying that one. Have tried from the least expensive to the most and many in between. Nice to have time being retarded to play with new toys. No more wrist or elbow pain from loading a couple hundred a day. Whatta Hobby!
Vmax97
Silver $$ Contributor
I hear you about the wrist and elbow pain, so I am looking for something like this and will put it on my list. Anyone want to buy my Frankland arsenal hand priming tool?
3Ackleys
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How much shipped?
Pheasanthunter
Gold $$ Contributor
I have trouble thinking of anything in the shoot&reloading world that isn’t a form of some type of similarity to another brands product. They either change a few things on it for better or worse otherwise nobody would get anything cause it would be tied up in courts for patten violations all the different products can’t come from scratch
I think these kinds of patents only last 15 years from the time it’s granted, not from when it hits the market. So sometimes we may not see a product on the market all that long before others are allowed to copy it if they’re not making changes to get around it.
I’m in my 70’s and I use the PMA hand priming tool. I used a Lee hand tool for over a decade before the PMA tool. I have issues with my hands, but I’ll keep using the PMA tool absolutely as long as I can, because I really like it. One day I might have to go to a bench mounted tool, but hopefully that many years away.
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