Heavy Buildup ?'s: Wipe-Out, Patch-Out, Carb-Out. Sharp Shoot R

[Syncrowave]

1 micron is .0000394 inches, soooo 100th of a micron is equal to .000000394 inches.

...or 100 Angstroms. Or 1/10 of the diameter of a coronavirus particle. (I wonder what that is in Planck Lengths...)

Who wrote this ad copy? Joe Isuzu?

 

[Sixfiver]

"Neglected carbon buildup can also cause corrosion, especially if the residue contains corrosive compounds. Corrosion can eat away at the metal components of the firearm, compromising its structural integrity and potentially rendering it unsafe to use."

This statement is exactly my reasoning why I "think" I need to get the bore clean down to bare metal. I don't want to wake up from a 30 year coma and find all my guns look like my dads


I pulled out my fathers old Marlin 30-30 that was sitting in the Midwest in a gun case for untouched from mid 1980's to 2010. Amazingly there is no surface rust on the rifle. It was cleaned with a Foam Bore Cleaner (don't know which brand it was at the time but it was most likely one of the imported from Europe brands I was using from about the 1990/2000 area when I got it 2010) until patches came out clean like the instructions on the can said. It had 50 to 100 rounds 2010 and 10 rounds in 2020 and cleaned with Wipe-Out (again until patch come out clean). I am betting it seen less that 50 rounds through it before it was stored away under the bed.

This rifle will be a good test subject to see what is under the carbon and see what different products can do.

 

[Dgd6mm]

"Neglected carbon buildup can also cause corrosion, especially if the residue contains corrosive compounds. Corrosion can eat away at the metal components of the firearm, compromising its structural integrity and potentially rendering it unsafe to use."

This statement is exactly my reasoning why I "think" I need to get the bore clean down to bare metal. I don't want to wake up from a 30 year coma and find all my guns look like my dads


I pulled out my fathers old Marlin 30-30 that was sitting in the Midwest in a gun case for untouched from mid 1980's to 2010. Amazingly there is no surface rust on the rifle. It was cleaned with a Foam Bore Cleaner (don't know which brand it was at the time but it was most likely one of the imported from Europe brands I was using from about the 1990/2000 area) until patches came out clean like the instructions on the can said.

This rifle will be a good test subject to see what is under the carbon and see what different products can do.

That looks like a good challenge. You got this.

 

[Spyder1958]

Been using all the bore cleaners from Sharp Shoot R (Wipe-Out, Patch-Out, No-Lead, Carb-Out) with what I thought was great success in till I bought a bore scope. The majority of the bore was clean and shinny but there is often streaks of carbon buildup that just wouldn't come clean using the no brush method per the manufacture. After using their with bronze brushes, the carbon started to clean (Nylon brushed didn't help at all). Under the carbon was more copper that the Carb-out didn't remove, so I used Patch-Out rush w/bronze to remove that copper. Alternating between Carb-out and Patch-Out is finally getting my bore down to bare metal. I had same results when removing heavy factory lead buildup on Walther manufactured 22 lr barrels, I had to use a tornado brush to get the last of the lead out.

Questions?
If you just leavy the hard heavy buildup that doesn't come out with normal cleaning, will corroision start to attack the barrel over time?

Per Sharp Shoot R, would you say these statments are correct or is it just marketing?
1) "CARB-OUT ™ leaves behind a protective coating that prevents future carbon adherence This coating is less than 100th of a micron in thickness, it will not affect first shot accuracy".
2) "The reason we don’t want you to put oil in the barrel is two-fold. When oil burns it produces carbon deposits which are harder to remove than copper fouling. The second reason is that with oil in the bore after cleaning, it is necessary to take 4 to 5 fouling shots. The fouling shots in reality just burn the oil residue out of the bore. Oil in the bore causes the bullet not to get adequate purchase on the rifling. The bullet sort of hydro-planes inaccurately until all the oil is gone. With Wipe-Out you don’t waste 4 or 5 rounds of ammo every time you clean. More importantly the “cold-bore shot” will be right in the middle of the group."

I use Bore tech products and they work great.

 

[Longtrain]

…This statement is exactly my reasoning why I "think" I need to get the bore clean down to bare metal. I don't want to wake up from a 30 year coma and find all my guns look like my dads …

…This rifle will be a good test subject to see what is under the carbon and see what different products can do.

That will be a challenge, but it will help. Be sure to switch arms, or you’re going to look like Popeye.
Post your results, it will good to see what can or can’t be done to neglected bores.

IMO, I would do several soakings with Patch-Out and the Accelerator. I would soak for an hour so and reapply. I’ve found that Patch-Out doesn’t do what Abrasive do, but they do soften the fouling, making it easier to remove.

 

[DShortt]

This thread, and most cleaning threads, expose a conundrum for me.

Based on personal experience, cleaning to bare metal after every shooting session is not conducive to best accuracy over multiple outings. Particularly with .22lr.

But.

Leaving fouling in the bore over long periods creates corrosion damage.

So.

If I shoot it often, I don't strip all fouling out.

If it's gonna sit for weeks/months/years, I strip it to bare metal.

Just my observations. Worth exactly what you paid for those observations.

There. I said it. May the beatings begin.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Why?

Well I only know what I see and don't see. They are good for the inside of case necks.Now as far as advertising goes I will play nice. Every one is hoping for the magic pill I guess, lol. On the other hand perhaps what ever those blue brushes do is all we need to do. I will stick to #9, Sweets, and Iosso.