Seating Depth vs Tuner - what are your thoughts?

[Dfin]

I’d love to hear what everyone thinks about this.

 

[BoydAllen]

I do not think that a tuner would be a good substitute for getting your seating depth right.

 

[quest450]

I'd definitely go with tuner and just start cranking left or right and skip the entire load development nonsense all together

 

[Kracken McGraw]

I'd definitely go with tuner and just start cranking left or right and skip the entire load development nonsense all together

Voice from another room “now-now Mark, you need to be nice when playing with the other boys”.

 

[NC/Br Shooter]

TUNER, = Last Resort

 

[quest450]

Voice from another room “now-now Mark, you need to be nice when playing with the other boys”.

Lol...and I haven't started drinking.....yet !

 

[Rat Rifle]

I'd definitely go with tuner and just start cranking left or right and skip the entire load development nonsense all together

It’s not like You to be timid Mark. Tell Us how You really feel

 

[quest450]

I didn't want to be an a$$ to the new member of this great forums BUT there are countless threads about tuners and load development and I had a feeling that the "new guy" is looking for the easy button instead learning the whole load development process and that's not how it works.

 

[bugman]

I didn't want to be an a$$ to the new member of this great forums BUT there are countless threads about tuners and load development and I had a feeling that the "new guy" is looking for the easy button instead learning the whole load development process and that's not how it works.

Then, why not type what you just did?

 

[quest450]

Then, why not type what you just did?

you're right, it was early and I haven't had my coffee yet.....he'll be alright and hopefully sticks around to learn how important seating depth test is and how worthless tuners are

 

[coldboreshot]

I'd definitely go with tuner and just start cranking left or right and skip the entire load development nonsense all together

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Well, I guess, no matter what time it is, its happy hour somewhere!

 

[JEFFPPC]

I'd definitely go with tuner and just start cranking left or right and skip the entire load development nonsense all together

I think that's the thought process for many .

 

[shoot4fun]

I’d love to hear what everyone thinks about this.

Are you loving these replies?
May I ask if you could give us all some background on your shooting background?
Do you understand and have working knowledge of the intricacies of seating depth?
Do you understand and have working knowledge of how tuners work (or don't)?
Ask anyone about using a tuner to make a poorly chosen load shoot like a winner in any given rifle.
It won't happen.

 

[Bill Norris]

Are you loving these replies?
May I ask if you could give us all some background on your shooting background?
Do you understand and have working knowledge of the intricacies of seating depth?
Do you understand and have working knowledge of how tuners work (or don't)?
Ask anyone about using a tuner to make a poorly chosen load shoot like a winner in any given rifle.
It won't happen.

Tuners don't work if the shooter don't work. (UP THE LOAD)

 

[swd]

Tuners will make the load the best it can be for the rifle but it won't make the load the best one for the gun... Do a full work up then tuner testing.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

The misconception here is that tuners replace load work up. That's not the case. The way I use tuners is as a tool to maintain tune as conditions change and tune goes away. That said, i haven't had to chase the lands as they move since going to tuners to keep the gun in tune.

Ultimately, testing is how we know stuff and if the testing isn't methodical the results will be random and of little or no value.

 

[Bill Norris]

Tuners will make the load the best it can be for the rifle but it won't make the load the best one for the gun... Do a full work up then tuner testing.

Absolutely, tuner will tune barrel harmonics but do nothing for the load.

 

[Brew2]

In my case the seating depth rules. After I have the best seating depth, I then get the tuner set. I use an Ezell tuner and I was sent a specific tuner target. Requires about 45 rounds, but then a photo is sent to my guy for the results and the best tuner settings as well as how to adjust for specific situations. Your adjustments are only two "notches" to the right or left. Definate improvement on my group size.

 

[Dfin]

I didn't want to be an a$$ to the new member of this great forums BUT there are countless threads about tuners and load development and I had a feeling that the "new guy" is looking for the easy button instead learning the whole load development process and that's not how it works.

Not at all. I’ve always gone the full development route but I have a tuner and have been told you can get your velocity and skip the seating depth test and start dialing. So I thought I’d get some info before wasting time.

 

[Dfin]

Are you loving these replies?
May I ask if you could give us all some background on your shooting background?
Do you understand and have working knowledge of the intricacies of seating depth?
Do you understand and have working knowledge of how tuners work (or don't)?
Ask anyone about using a tuner to make a poorly chosen load shoot like a winner in any given rifle.
It won't happen.

I am actually, not hurting my feelings at all, just wanted to see if they have any merit before I waste time.
I know and understand the full process, and have used it on many cartridges with many barrels, but I’ve never really used a tuner. Just thought I’d ask.