Lapua 308 Palma brass with LRPs???

[kelbro]

Big surprise in the mail yesterday. I purchased some 'new unfired Lapua Palma' 308 brass off another site. They were bagged rather than boxed. I opened the bag to start weight sorting them and noticed they were quite a bit lighter than my other Palma brass. Started looking more closely and noticed the flash holes were larger. I thought the previous owner might have drilled them out. Had another cup of coffee and looked a little closer.. They have large rifle primer pockets!

These are not marked Lapua, just PALMA 308 WIN

Has anybody seen this before? Was it a SKU before? Maybe seconds? Possibly not Lapua?

Thanks

 

[Tangent]

Sounds like someone has sent you some "Palma" brass passing it off as Lapua.

 

[mgunderson]

The Palma name is legally controlled by the US Palma Team. It doesn't just show up on stuff. Please post picture of the head stamp. I expect a few people will have info.

 

[kelbro]

The Palma name is legally controlled by the US Palma Team. It doesn't just show up on stuff. Please post picture of the head stamp. I expect a few people will have info.

It's been added to the OP.

 

[mgunderson]

@Bolt Gun God Do you know the history on this.

 

[mgunderson]

General thought from the old guys. This is Winchester manufactured brass from the 1992 Palma cycle.

 

[30EX]

Winchester Brass

 

[kelbro]

I suppose it's possible. Most of my Winchester brass weighs around 155-158grns.

My LC 77 Match is closer to 180grns.

Federal was also around 180 grns.

Most all of my Lapua 308 is between 168 and 173 grns.

A large sample of this brass weighs between 165-167grns.

Phil Hoham confirms that it's not Lapua. Possibly Winchester.

 

[Tangent]

You can't trust anyone these days!

 

[GotRDid]

From my shelf…

 

[kiwijohn]

I have 500 cases of the 92 Palma brass, just like the above photo. It anneals different to Winchester by a lot.
If WW did make it,they used a different recipe.

 

[kelbro]

You can't trust anyone these days!

In the guy's defense, there was an old generic label on the package that said Lapua 308 and he most likely didn't know any better. He's selling a huge lot of reloading components for the estate.

 

[kelbro]

From my shelf…

I wonder who made that brass. Jensen's was always top of the line ammo. We would get their stuff at the local AZ gun shows.