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NF Comp 15-55x52 or March. HM 10-60/Majesta 8-80x56

I have no idea how they do it but they are remarkable. A guy doesn’t have to be an optics expert to look through a scope on a firing line and decide if it’s bright or dark. The darkest I’ve seen is my Golden Eagle, the brightest being NF Comp.
haha thats so true, no need to be an optics expert to see the difference,
our eye is the judge more than their quoted light transmission numbers right?
I mean its just interesting how things like optics coatings have advanced and how they can make a scope so much better now. I mean things got sketchy for awhile when they outlawed using lead in glass and found other ways to get around it,
I mean it really helped me understand anyway why there may be such a price difference from one scope to another even if they had similar specs. But nightforce has always impressed me too, they know what they're doing
 
A little story , I worked for a Japanese company for awhile and at the time they were the second largest residential builder in Japan expanding to the American market. Anyways I found it interesting that they didn’t like women in any position of authority, also they were quite racist when referring to customers as the black people or the Jew couple during our weekly board meetings. I always suggested to learn the peoples names because one of these days a couple will overhear it from the lobby and not appreciate that stuff but for some reason the president just didn’t seem too concerned.
Interesting. I shared the above post with Minako Kobayashi and Mari Morita, respectively the CEO and CMO of DEON Optical Corporation in Japan, who are in the Houston area this week.

 
Interesting. I shared the above post with Minako Kobayashi and Mari Morita, respectively the CEO and CMO of DEON Optical Corporation in Japan, who are in the Houston area this week.

Good on them, I think women make excellent executives.
Added: I worked there about twenty years ago so in all fairness I’m fairly certain they’ve changed their outlook.

Hopefully ….
 
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Interesting. I shared the above post with Minako Kobayashi and Mari Morita, respectively the CEO and CMO of DEON Optical Corporation in Japan, who are in the Houston area this week.

That is wonderful news!!!

CW
 
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I have been using March scopes since I started. Have been through quite a few over the years, usually letting one go to a friend or left on a gun I was selling. I see the new repair facility in the U.S. as a good thing. But I think the "repair man" will resemble this guy, before too long.....LOL

Regards
Rick
 
My question is why ? And to what end would you do that ?
These are two entirely different companies and time frames with apparently different views.
It just seems odd that you would go out of your way to do that and then post that you did so, unless you were just trying to discredit me somehow because my opinion didn’t align with yours.
That’s what I find interesting.
I guess its equalling interesting why you shared your story about an unrelated company that was in your opinion racist in the first place.The only relation the conpanies have is they are Japanese. Which must be the only reason to bring it up? Are we trying to say Japanese companies are all racist? That would be quite prejudice? This is what happens when we go down that racist sexist woke path.
 
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I guess its equalling interesting why you shared your story about an unrelated company that was in your opinion racist in the first place. The only relation the conpanies have is they are Japanese. Which must be the only reason to bring it up? Are we trying to say Japanese companies are all racist? That would be quite prejudice? This is what happens when we go down that racist sexist woke path.
Alex, I’m not sexiest and hopefully not racist or woke, I was just reminded of a time and relayed a story.
Btw, I stood opposed and suggested an alternate path.
I’m not sure why you’re hitting me on this but I deleted it regardless.
 
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Mari Morita , I have conversed with her on and off for a few years. She is what I would expect from March. And she has assured me that March will take care of problems even if the scope is discontinued or out of their warranty. It's great to put a face on a name .
Thanks.
 
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I have been using March scopes since I started. Have been through quite a few over the years, usually letting one go to a friend or left on a gun I was selling. I see the new repair facility in the U.S. as a good thing. But I think the "repair man" will resemble this guy, before too long.....LOL

Regards
Rick
That is too funny. However, the big difference is that you don't take your Maytag outside and throw in on the ground or ram it into barricades and other assorted torture regimen such as running over it with the SUV. The repair stories I have heard. Horses? And what was that bull doing?
 
This is a tough choice. We still done have the perfect scope. The NF comp resolves slightly better. Still the best in that category. But I hesitate to recommend them if you dont have a scope checker. A solid NF comp is probably the best thing out there but I dont know if I will ever trust them until they come clean and admit there was issues and tell us how they fixed the issue. Plus, I dont like liars so it hard to recommend them period. March glass is March glass. If you have had them you know what I mean. Typically darker and you tell yourself its not that bad because it was $3-4k. March scopes are generally a lot more reliable. Now they are not immune. We have found issues with them on the scope checker too but its rare. I guess if they were both sitting on the table Id grab the March. I will be a lot more excited when a scope company gives us what we actually need. Just a basic competition scope with a limited mag range, excellent glass that holds zero every time. Thats it! Top glass/holds zero.
PS 1000yd BR records are mostly all agg records, which take 6-10 matches to complete. 3-6 months usually. Only the single target for group or score would be shot in a single match. Those agg records are in my opinion the most difficult of any record to break.
The March Majesta seems to have worked out well in this case.

 
The March Majesta seems to have worked out well in this case.

No doubt. March is one of the best. Tom stopped aiming the gun in May. It tracks. As much as I am a fan, I want better. Not for me, I hardly even shoot anymore. I want it because I know they can do it.
 
I really like the best equipment and many told me the March Majesta was the very very best. I had the opportunity to look through one at 1000 yard F Class target… it was dark, the filtering made reading - seeing the mirage more difficult than my NF Comps.. the F_Class reticle is smart but dang it busy … anyway all that and the fact I’d end up with weight issues if I made the switch on current guns. I’m holding out for something better although the NFs are causing any issues…
 
A Trijicon 10 Mile scope is also a scope to consider and is made in Japan.
5-50 x 56 34mm tube and red or green illumination (you have both options in the scope) that you can actually see in the day time. Unlike both illumined March scopes that I own..
Glass is bright and clear and in a price range that is hard to go past at just under $2K.
I have both a Majesta and the Trijicon mounted on F Class rifles and along with my Kahles 10-50 and between the 3 the Trijicon and the Kahles have the brightest glass.
Eye relief on the Trijicon is a bit more critical as well as parallax adjustment but that serves to cut through the mirage at times better than the Majesta.
 
I really like the best equipment and many told me the March Majesta was the very very best. I had the opportunity to look through one at 1000 yard F Class target… it was dark, the filtering made reading - seeing the mirage more difficult than my NF Comps.. the F_Class reticle is smart but dang it busy … anyway all that and the fact I’d end up with weight issues if I made the switch on current guns. I’m holding out for something better although the NFs are causing any issues…
That's the reason you use a filter!
 
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I have been using March scopes since I started. Have been through quite a few over the years, usually letting one go to a friend or left on a gun I was selling. I see the new repair facility in the U.S. as a good thing. But I think the "repair man" will resemble this guy, before too long.....LOL

Regards
Rick
I have a HM that need repairs, do you have contact info for the US facility?
Thanks
 
Use a filter for what? Seeing the mirage through my NF Comp is good for me… where do you get filters anyway of reducers? I may experiment.
In my limited experience you use a filter to cut down the marage, darker? Yes, less movement? Yes. The defuser from a March hm fits the Nightforce comp
 

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