62 grain steel penetrator loading

[Knotwild]

When I was a young man, I bought two wooden cases of WWII black tip armor piercing ammunition in 8 round clips and cloth bandoleers, an M1 Garand, and a Remington 03A3 that had been lightly sporterized. They would penetrate more at 100+yds than it would at 50. I later read that at distance, the bullet had slowed enough to be more stable on impact. I believe that to be true based on what I saw.

However, I found one thing that it wouldn't scratch - a piece of railroad iron. I shot it in the web and it simply made a grey splash without even putting a dent in it.

 

[Knotwild]

When I was a young man, I bought two wooden cases of WWII black tip armor piercing ammunition in 8 round clips and cloth bandoleers, an M1 Garand, and a Remington 03A3 that had been lightly sporterized. They would penetrate more at 100+yds than it would at 50. I later read that at distance, the bullet had slowed enough to be more stable on impact. I believe that to be true based on what I saw.

However, I found one thing that it wouldn't scratch - a piece of railroad iron. I shot it in the web and it simply made a grey splash without even putting a dent in it.

 

[precision1]

If we are talking military they get what they get at each individual place......
My son left twenty nine palms almost two years ago.

His entire battalion had h&k m27 piston driven ar's with trijicon rco.they qualified at 600 yards and used m855 but they also shot anything they was given.its not as perfect as you would think.
My son was certified to drive explosives in duece and a half
He never even trained on pistols and he was in infantry.only officers have pistols.

He was issued m4 because he was morterman needed smaller rifle since he carried 75lbs more than a rifle man....there's all these small groups get special weapons or different battalions

It's not always what you would think.

Kinda cool thing about collecting military stuff.theres always that well there was some of these issued here and there and could be correct. definitely learned that with a kid in military


Idk he ran steel plates good with his m27 and 62 gr ap ammo ..600 yrd

I guess you guys saying it sucks cause the steel core doesn't squeeze down like lead?

I have noticed the 62gr ap lake city and the pmc 62gr ap stuff sucks at accuracy.is this what y'all are saying?

I shoot a pile of the 62gr Hornady fmj it shoots great.lead core

It's a tiny piece of soft steel in the tip.not sure this would affect accuracy far as the AP stuff goes...?

 

[tommeboy]

the green tip 62gr is NOT actually a AP round. The black tip was

 

[9mmAnimal]

I need to get out to shoot 5,loading up some 55 grain and some of the 62 penetrator bullets shooting them at some metal targets try both see what fps I can get see if those penetrator is worth it, they were cheap 500 $69 I'll try to get 3000 fps see if those penetrator does anything

Didn't have time to go shooting probably Monday morning

Well how did the testing turn out with the H 335

Should get out Monday morning have more info,got a couple of peices of steel gonna get my fps and more powder for my 55 grain bullets figure if it's better more speed with the 55s or the steel penetrator, leaning towards more speed should have my answers Monday evening I think anything over 3000 fps should work better I'll also take some pictures.

 

[ELR LVR]

Those green tips were saw rounds when I worked at lake city. The govt. thought that steel penetrator shot through more steel. Doug

I've found it funny how long it takes for the Govt to change it's mind and correct a decision

 

[9mmAnimal]

Didn't have time to go shooting probably Monday morning

Should get out Monday morning have more info,got a couple of peices of steel gonna get my fps and more powder for my 55 grain bullets figure if it's better more speed with the 55s or the steel penetrator, leaning towards more speed should have my answers Monday evening I think anything over 3000 fps should work better I'll also take some pictures.

First pic entry second exit 55fmj 25 grains 335 second steel penetrator 62 grain 24.5 grain 335 more speed does the same as the steel penetrator glad they weren't expensive

 

[9mmAnimal]

First pic entry second exit

 

[9mmAnimal]

First pic entry second exit

Well how did the testing turn out with the H 335

Ok 62 steel penetrator about 2600 average fps 24 grains no problem loaded 55 grain fmj 25.5 grains shot real good around average 2900 fps pics of an old motorcycle exhaust 55 grain did as good as the 62 grain steel penetrator made a couple of 26 grain 55 grain bullets shot great no pressure problems sitting at 3000 fps much more accurate than the steel penetrator just sounds good glad they weren't expensive.

 

[9mmAnimal]

55gr will penetrate way more. That tiny little steel tip inside doesn't do anything. SPEED is what you want, especially in this bullet.

Yep got around 3000 fps blew right through my old motorcycle pipe 55 fmj and 62 steel penetrator the pictures first pic entry second exit

 

[Homerange]

Out of the 223 at ~3350fps you'd be surprised what the Nosler 50gr BT can do !

 

[M-61]

I've found it funny how long it takes for the Govt to change it's mind and correct a decision

Yes. Might to keep in mind when “MIL- SPEC” is printed on anything at all.

 

[9mmAnimal]

The Hodgdon data I have shows a max charge of 24.0 for H-335 in a .223. That's for a Hornday 62 ELD-VT. They are not listing data for 5.56 online. Where did you obtain your data? H-335 is my preferred powder for .223 and my load is 25.1 for a 55 V-Max so your data would be considerably higher pressure.

The Hodgdon data I have shows a max charge of 24.0 for H-335 in a .223. That's for a Hornday 62 ELD-VT. They are not listing data for 5.56 online. Where did you obtain your data? H-335 is my preferred powder for .223 and my load is 25.1 for a 55 V-Max so your data would be considerably higher pressure.

 

[9mmAnimal]

Lyman reloading book also tested up to 26.5 around 3100 fps no pressure problems

 

[9mmAnimal]

55gr will penetrate way more. That tiny little steel tip inside doesn't do anything. SPEED is what you want, especially in this bullet.

Yep after doing a few tests loading max or close to max using 55 grain jacketed work just as good as steel penetrator bullets glad they were cheap

 

[jpjulian]

That data is for a 55 grain soft point not a 62 grain FMJ. You do you but I do suggest you tread lightly and cautiously as those 2 bullets are totally different animals and pressures will be significantly different.