Aerospike Bullets Initial Test Results

[ebb]

No they must be given to someone who knows what they are doing and has the range hardware and expertise to prove them. I have no idea if he is interested but I gave you a name.

 

[Rset]

No they must be given to someone who knows what they are doing and has the range hardware and expertise to prove them. I have no idea if he is interested but I gave you a name.

There have been lots of names and offers. The problem would appear to be that he can not control the results from these unbiased shooters, and thus fails in his quest to prove himself right at all costs. He does not appear to be interested in actual results, only those that support his position.

 

[CJ6]

May I ask the OP just what exactly you do use for equipment? Rail gun, 1k BR style, Short range BR style, Factory (store bought varmint style)? What about rests? Front and rear mechanical, Soft bags Front and rear, what?

 

[Dave M.]

you admitted to not having "bench rest type rifles" to test with.
So, much of your testing is being done with sub par equipment, which will be difficult to determine any data with (is it the bullet or the rifle).

If you are in fact testing 10k bullets a year ... why is it so difficult for you to provide 'know shooters' here with 500 or 1k bullets for testing at the ranges you claim will make a difference ?

Researching and developing a sub MOA load at 100 yards generally takes more than a few bullets.
At the ranges you are suggesting your bullet will make a difference is generally A LOT more R&D for sub MOA.

Whether you shoot them yourself .... or someone else shoots them, the cost is the same to you (actually cheaper, no powder or primers).

Most of the shooters here are stand up guys and will/would provide you with honest feedback that you will not be able to obtain with your current equipment.

JMO

This has been my point exactly from the beginning. He doesn’t have the equipment, experience, or shooting skills to test his bullets, but doesn’t want to give away 200-500 bullets to skilled award winning shooters with top notch equipment capable of shooting consistently sub one half MOA 5 shot groups. So instead, he is likely cherry picking his best shot groups and comparing them to his worst shot groups with mediocre available production bullets of the same caliber.
Dave

 

[Dave M.]

May I ask the OP just what exactly you do use for equipment? Rail gun, 1k BR style, Short range BR style, Factory (store bought varmint style)? What about rests? Front and rear mechanical, Soft bags Front and rear, what?

Great question that should illicit a proper response.

 

[ebb]

Maybe a name that would be an eye catcher in the long range target shooters world? Guffy's Bullets

 

[boltfluter]

Just let this thread die! Please!

 

[John Beauchamp]

Have you offered to help?. I have, and so have others. We did not ask for free bullets or anything other than an opportunity to provide feedback that might be meaningful to the designer.
I have no idea what the cost of a few of his bullets might have been, but I expect that if he has any chance of selling them, it is an insignificant cost in the greater scheme of my expenditures.
To the developer, this would be information at no expense to him from High Master level shooters.
No Reply, No Discussion, No Credibility in my opinion. He seems to want to complain and pick and choose the information he gets back. I am not into supporting his propaganda and at this point would have serious doubts about the credibility of any favorable reports on his product that might be offered in the future.

No I have not offered to help. I am not a long distance shooter so my testing would be maybe as bad as his. I am a short range UBR shooter.
I don't believe he has a reasonable approach to the testing or marketing of his idea.
My main problem is that I think it's possible to disagree with someone without being disagreeable about it. We all disagree or we'd all be shooting the same game using all the same equipment and supplies. I just think it's better to say nothing than to call names and belittle someone.