ATF learned how to do tax stamps quickly

[urbanrifleman]

I guess I better go apply electronically if I want to use a suppressor , I applied at Silencer Central in January of 2023 the last time I called them was March 7th .They said they are preparing to send an email to the local Sheriff. I will never do business with these assholes again. They make a big deal of the fact that (It gets shipped. straight to your door) Well I could have walked to Iowa and picked it quicker.

Ok good to know.

I think I want to get one for myself and one for my fiance.

WHO IS THE BEST FOR FAST TURN AROUND?

I want someone who does everything.

 

[Jdne5b]

Ok good to know.

I think I want to get one for myself and one for my fiance.

WHO IS THE BEST FOR FAST TURN AROUND?

I want someone who does everything.

Find someone local that uses Silencer Shop and has a kiosk is usually the easy button.

All the fast turnaround is for individual applications. Trusts are still taking longer.

 

[DRK]

Ok good to know.

I think I want to get one for myself and one for my fiance.

WHO IS THE BEST FOR FAST TURN AROUND?

I want someone who does everything.

Have you paid the SOT? If so, transfers tax exempt on a Form 3, should be approved within 24-48 hrs.

 

[jkohler]

Have you paid the SOT? If so, transfers tax exempt on a Form 3, should be approved within 24-48 hrs.

I’ve been thinking of paying mine in july this year. Wondering if it’s worth the extra headache

 

[urbanrifleman]

Have you paid the SOT? If so, transfers tax exempt on a Form 3, should be approved within 24-48 hrs.

What is sot ?

 

[VA_XTC_Shooter]

What is sot ?

Class III FFL status for NFA items

 

[urbanrifleman]

Class III FFL status for NFA items

So you can get a class 3 ffl in two months for a small fee. And then you can get a silencer on two days?

 

[jkohler]

A SOT is a add on to your FFL It’s a speacial Occupational Taxpayer Fee due every July.

 

[VA_XTC_Shooter]

So you can get a class 3 ffl in two months for a small fee. And then you can get a silencer on two days?

small fee - $500-1,000/year

Approval yes. The shop I was at built machine guns, we had to submit the form to ATF within 24hrs registering it and it was approved the next day. Same with suppressors, build or buy.

When you close out your SOT, all NFA items have to be destroyed or turned into ATF. So it is not a workaround to get a private owned suppressor faster, it is never privately owned, it is under the FFL.

 

[urbanrifleman]

small fee - $500-1,000/year

Approval yes. The shop I was at built machine guns, we had to submit the form to ATF within 24hrs registering it and it was approved the next day. Same with suppressors, build or buy.

When you close out your SOT, all NFA items have to be destroyed or turned into ATF. So it is not a workaround to get a private owned suppressor faster, it is never privately owned, it is under the FFL.

Right. But it takes two months to get an FFL but a year to get a suppressor.

 

[nwmnbowhunter]

Ok good to know.

I think I want to get one for myself and one for my fiance.

WHO IS THE BEST FOR FAST TURN AROUND?

I want someone who does everything.

Capitol armory has been good to me

 

[VA_XTC_Shooter]

Right. But it takes two months to get an FFL but a year to get a suppressor.

Would you rather an FFL take a year to get?

 

[The boogalorian]

Would you rather an FFL take a year to get?

I’d rather abolish the ATF and the NFA.

 

[DRK]

I’ve been thinking of paying mine in july this year. Wondering if it’s worth the extra headache

The SOT is simply a tax paid to deal, import or manufacture NFA firearms. The license is your ticket to receive across state lines and dispose of in your state. Also note, if you are an FFL/SOT, you may take MGs, SBR, SBS, and DDs across state lines w/o permission from the NFA branch (5320.20) just make certain where you are going you can have them under state/local law.

If you pay it, make sure of two things. First, be absolutely certain you have a registration form for every item transfered in, out, and currently in your possession. I would be very surprised if you get inspected and the print out the IOI has from the NFA branch is completely accurate. Bound book has the correct number of NFA items, all have forms, closed entries for approved transfers out, open entries for NFA items in inventory. Make sure you do a 4473 to a buyer if not licensed. Assuming your state uses FBI for NICS, you do not need to call NICS for a transfer approved to an individual, all others (Corp, trust, LLC, etc.) require NICS. Also note, if you a transferring a Title I firearm w/an NFA firearm, i.e. integrally suppressed pistol/rifle, or a pistol w/a can, the Title I firearm requires NICS even if transfered on the same 4473 with the approved NFA firearm. Some guys call in all 4473 transfers, even if exempt from NICS. I was told by my local ATF office not to do this if NICS exempt otherwise it was "misuse of NICS."

Second, if you pay the SOT, make sure you have either tax paid transfers or qualified tax exempt transfers. It is frowned upon to pay the SOT and aquire NFA items w/o tax paid to the .gov

 

[DRK]

small fee - $500-1,000/year

Approval yes. The shop I was at built machine guns, we had to submit the form to ATF within 24hrs registering it and it was approved the next day. Same with suppressors, build or buy.

When you close out your SOT, all NFA items have to be destroyed or turned into ATF. So it is not a workaround to get a private owned suppressor faster, it is never privately owned, it is under the FFL.

You pay based on your gross receipts, if under $500k you qualify for the reduced rate of $500.

If you are on 07/02 you may make an NFA firearm, excluding a DD, and then notify ATF on a Form 2 within 24 hrs. Already registered NFA firearms transfer tax exempt on a Form 3 between SOTs. Any post 86 MGs will be stamped restricted registration and have certain transfer requirements.

If you stop paying the SOT, only post 86 MGs must be disposed of (either destroyed, sold to another FFL/SOT, transferred to a LEA/gov agency, or surrendered to ATF) , you may keep pre 86 MGs and all other NFA firearms. If NFA firearms are papered to a corp they remain papered to a corp, if you are papered to an individual they remain papered to an individual. Transfers of NFA firearms after you stop paying the SOT go tax paid on a Form 4 instead of tax exempt Form 3.

 

[DRK]

Right. But it takes two months to get an FFL but a year to get a suppressor.

If you currently have a license, which I believe you do, a Form 4 (paper) to you should be approved in 6-8 weeks as a licensee. If you have paid the SOT, a Form 3 will be approved (eforms) in 24-48 hrs.

 

[USMCsilver]

This is a relevant reason. At public ranges, I don't use mine unless i'm sighting in the rifle for hunting season. No use having it on when everyone else is blasting away without one. Plus, they get really hot, really fast. I generally shoot too much to bother having the suppressor on and having to wait 20+ mins for it to cool down after a string of fire. They have their purpose for sure. Not everyone's cup of tea. Some people just don't need one. I have a 150 yd home range (don't want to annoy my neighbors) and that was 50% the reason for owning one, hunting the other 50...

Here ya go. It's extremely well constructed!

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanix-Wear-Specialty-Suppressor-Transport/dp/B092H5RQ22?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A1FCYK29W1PUBV&th=1

 

[Camper]

I submitted one on the 16th and another one yesterday, the 19th. Just got the email that the one on the 16th is approved.

 

[gkgeiger]

Does anyone know for certain, how an individual could sell a suppressor? I bought it a few years ago, waited a long time and got my stamp and the can. Only used it a few times and stored it. I no longer have a reason to keep it.

 

[dantiff2]

Does anyone know for certain, how an individual could sell a suppressor? I bought it a few years ago, waited a long time and got my stamp and the can. Only used it a few times and stored it. I no longer have a reason to keep it.

Your best bet would be to try and sell it used to a gun shop that deal's in NFA items. It would be troublesome to try to attempt an individual sale. In my opinion.