You mean that can't run 5 shots in a matter of seconds? Lol!
Whew it’s like watching paint dry Mike, if I recall there were almost 50 shooters. Hankins, Pittman and a lot of good shooters were there. We were under roof so it was thumping......
Yeah, I bet you were! That’s quite a “beating” you took!
I bet that's right. I've never been to a MZ match but I guess it does move pretty slow. Still, small groups from cannons like these are very impressive to me and it's amazing how far MZ's have come. Our cf br and rf br rifles have come a long way over the last few years too but these are in a different league. Even air rifle is way behind in terms of how far they have come in the same period of time. Hope to see you sometime soon. We'll talk about what I have in mind without posting it here yet. There's not much truly new left but this kinda is...fwiw.
45 cal is most common with established loads and the 40 cal is starting to come more popular but it comes with a learning curve. Bullet selection start at 225 grains and goes up to 353 grains.
Not a land rider, but Swinglock has produced a 6.5 shooting full formed bullets.
Interesting. The one I had used a plug and a module made from a 308 case cut down. It required headspacing the barrel so the closing bold squeezed the head of the case between the face of the plug and the bolt face. Despite a tight bolt close, after several hundred rounds I got gas cutting on the face of the breech plug and it was game over. This coincided with my state loosening restrictions on rifles during deer season and I was no longer obligated to use a ML for long shots, so I turned the action into a 243AI and moved on.
Had one that the previous owner couldn't get it to work. The main problem was he was using different brand cases which resulted in different head spacing due to difference in cartridge web thickness. Sold it to a buddy that likes projects. He made a fixture for the mill, plunged with an end mill and made them all the same, reset headspace and problem solved. Having said that, that setup was part of the evolution of where we are today.
Thank you! I knew somebody must be making something like that, as I've built dozens of them in my daydreams!
I went down the Swinglock die rabbit hole with the .45 drop, off a Brux SML barrel. Total waste of a LOT of time trying to get it to work. Every hunting bullet I tried needed a hydraulic press to push them through the die. They then needed to be indexed to the rifling in the barrel. Then fool around with wads. Accuracy was crap compared to Hornady 200 SSTs and smooth blue harvester sabots. Anyone else's mileage may vary but I wouldn't touch that system with a ten foot pole.
No. The problem you describe with the .308 type brass modules is why the this module was developed. It has a carbide insert in the breech plug. Arrowhead (Luke Horath) patented it. I assume he has a licensing agreement with Hankins. Hankins also has his Direct Injection system that’s a little different but very effective in its own way.
No restrictions in Arizona. The reason NM took away scopes is that they issue lots of ML tags and were killing too many of their big bulls and they figured it wasn’t sustainable. They need to sell those tags for revenue and didn’t want to cut it. Arizona is the opposite, they’ve never issued very many ML tags (very very low draw odds today) and even with high success rates it has much lower harvest numbers overall compared to other weapons. NM also has a “restricted” ML weapon deer hunt so that covers a more traditional hunt with a limited harvest.
It does sound like a system where all the stars would have to align perfectly to get results. My daydream, which may or may not happen, is a smaller caliber using a combination of land riding and a pre-engraved pressure band at the base of the bullet. Definitely not a reloading press sort of forming operation.
what kind of hunting bullets are you using that deliver that kind of accuracy?
