Mulligan
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Yes Sir, I will be happy to do that.
CW
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Skedaddle Shooter
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Hi Clay,
Not yet. We are still working on range improvements and are making progress. We are still working on getting some ShotMarker units for our sighter targets as well. Just a little hard to come by the funding so far.
Skedaddle Shooter
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Hi Clay,
With three targets on each frame. Did you have Adam configure a template with your three target setup and that lets you keep track of all three on one frame? I’m running my personal unit with his standard IBS 600 and 1000 yard target templets and center our paper NBRSA targets on the frame,but we only have one center point calibrated. Curious how you set that up.
Thanks, Joe
Mulligan
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Good morning,
Yes, Adam agreed to establish this three target configuration for Freedom Benchrest.
Joe, the local shooters are bringing their personal Shot-Marker systems for this match. That is also how the local 600 and 1000 yard F-class matches are ran. We simply “team up” and get it done. Extra bases are $35.00 a set and then you have the cost for coroplast and frames. I bet this sort of thing is doable for many ranges.
CW
Yes, Adam agreed to establish this three target configuration for Freedom Benchrest.
Joe, the local shooters are bringing their personal Shot-Marker systems for this match. That is also how the local 600 and 1000 yard F-class matches are ran. We simply “team up” and get it done. Extra bases are $35.00 a set and then you have the cost for coroplast and frames. I bet this sort of thing is doable for many ranges.
CW
Ccrider
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Mulligan
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This is the prototype frame
The official frames do not have holes for binder clips as we will use big push pins to secure the targets. Additionally, the official frames are a foot taller
CW
Skedaddle Shooter
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Hi Clay, I know of a couple of us in our club that have them and a local bank has given us $1,000 towards buying some more. I’ll have to float the idea of using personal units to get us started and see who might be willing to get one. Our friend Jeff is doing the same thing with his group up north in Seattle. We will submit a grant application to the NRA Foundation once the grant process opens up for 2024. But even if successful it would be a couple years from now before we got funded and the units purchased. Once we get the sighter issue worked out on our range it will be top notch
. Here’s the work on our new 600 yard berm and the new firing line we completed last summer.
Mulligan
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Wow!Hi Clay, I know of a couple of us in our club that have them and a local bank has given us $1,000 towards buying some more. I’ll have to float the idea of using personal units to get us started and see who might be willing to get one. Our friend Jeff is doing the same thing with his group up north in Seattle. We will submit a grant application to the NRA Foundation once the grant process opens up for 2024. But even if successful it would be a couple years from now before we got funded and the units purchased. Once we get the sighter issue worked out on our range it will be top notch
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You’re well on your way to establishing a first class operation!
Sweet!
CW
Mulligan
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Hey Freedom Family,
I have a question for all of you.
Right now under the Freedom Benchrest rules, we can use etargets to see sighters and record rounds as their fired. If we pull the paper targets each time and measure groups by hand, they can be sent in for records.
Now, if we decide to shoot entirely on etargets...... not pulling paper targets each time. Just shoot your sighters, hit the go-for-record button and shoot your record rounds (while watching on the ipad or tablet of some sort and you can see your record rounds hitting the target). Reset the etarget and you are ready for the next shooter....no pit duty! The match is good and within the rules, and as I understand it, Freedom Benchrest now has a separate records program for matches shot entirely on etargets. Again no paper pulled, using the electronics to measure groups and score.
Maybe, @JBauer will come along and verify that we do in fact have a separate etarget records database for those matches shot entirely on etargets. I am sure that is what I heard, just giving him a chance to correct me if I am wrong.
Lots of reasons to do this: lack of pit crews, save time, save money, etc.
Here is the question,
How many shooting ranges or clubs could start hosting matches, large or small by using etargets?
The reason I asked
Not so many years ago, we lost our f-class range. Our match director set up a 600 yard f-class match with personal etargets that a few shooters had. We shot at a range without pits and made it work. Without etargets, we could never have pulled this off. I just wonder how many clubs or ranges could be in a position to host some local matches closer to home with this new technology?
Thanks
CW
I have a question for all of you.
Right now under the Freedom Benchrest rules, we can use etargets to see sighters and record rounds as their fired. If we pull the paper targets each time and measure groups by hand, they can be sent in for records.
Now, if we decide to shoot entirely on etargets...... not pulling paper targets each time. Just shoot your sighters, hit the go-for-record button and shoot your record rounds (while watching on the ipad or tablet of some sort and you can see your record rounds hitting the target). Reset the etarget and you are ready for the next shooter....no pit duty! The match is good and within the rules, and as I understand it, Freedom Benchrest now has a separate records program for matches shot entirely on etargets. Again no paper pulled, using the electronics to measure groups and score.
Maybe, @JBauer will come along and verify that we do in fact have a separate etarget records database for those matches shot entirely on etargets. I am sure that is what I heard, just giving him a chance to correct me if I am wrong.
Lots of reasons to do this: lack of pit crews, save time, save money, etc.
Here is the question,
How many shooting ranges or clubs could start hosting matches, large or small by using etargets?
The reason I asked
Not so many years ago, we lost our f-class range. Our match director set up a 600 yard f-class match with personal etargets that a few shooters had. We shot at a range without pits and made it work. Without etargets, we could never have pulled this off. I just wonder how many clubs or ranges could be in a position to host some local matches closer to home with this new technology?
Thanks
CW
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Longrangelefty
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Clay,
There will be separate records for those that adopt etargets at their respective ranges. This way as time passes and more electronic options become available, each range can then utilize what they need to be as successful as possible. I hope this helps clarify!
Blake
LOVE the e-targets, what is the height & width off your target frame. this is a question for Blake can this be used for a national event.
big john
big john
Mulligan
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John,
the frame 48" wide and 57" tall, the legs are 72" tall
The white sheet of coroplast is 48"x48"
CW
If you are shooting electronic targets and using them for scoring, there would be no need for 3 targets on a stand. All shots could be fired on one target.
Better yet, one target with a 1 moa target offset, meaning, the bullets hit the target 1 moa above the center. Every shooter then gets to shoot at a clean target center. We've been doing this in F-Class for years.
Mulligan
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Yep
There are a few brave folks doing that at Sac, shooting 1000 yard BR. But with a few restrictions.
Taking what we have learned from F-class and applying it to long range benchrest will help open more ranges and get more shooters in the sport.
CW
Alex Wheeler
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Are you going to still measure the actual target?
Mulligan
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Alex
At Western Colorado, for our Saturday match we will.
But the option is there to use the score and group function off the shotmarker system and not pull targets or manually measure groups. Again, Sac is now doing this at a 1000.
There are a TON of benefits to using the shotmarkers.
One of the biggest benefits for me.
It counts the number of shot on target.
I have seen DQ’s in our sport where a shooter wadded them all up in a tiny group and the refs could not see one of the five.
The equipment, our smith’s understanding, constant testing and lots of luck with weather have us shooting a few groups at 600 smaller that lots of the groups posted at 200 or 300.
Progress.
CW
JBauer
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If a Match Director chooses to use a clean paper target for each of his competitors, over the e Target, then the paper target could be considered for a record as well as the e-target recording would be. Freedom BR will recognize e-target reports and paper targets for records in their Individual categories.
It it up to the Match Directors to use whatever format they choose and fits the needs of their Ranges.
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