New NRA F-Class High Power Rifle Committee

[Downeast]

How much does one have to "donate" to the NRA to get on their various committees?

 

[mgdietrich]

I've been shooting F-TR for 12 years; so I'm not completely unaware of some of the problems that have occurred in the past. However, today is the first time where it was publicly announced that F-Class shooters may finally enjoy a little autonomy and control of their own destiny. The details aren't even out yet and the response seems overly negative and pessimistic, IMO. All I'm saying is let's just give it chance.

F-Class has suffered from a kind of benign neglect over the years in part because it has been a subdivision of Highpower. You and everyone else know exactly what I'm talking about, no other description is necessary. I would like to think a little separation between the two disciplines is a step in the right direction, not a potential negative. However, I have no illusions that everything F-Class will instantly become all rainbows and unicorn tears. Nonetheless, this could be the beginning of something good, and I'm trying to keep a positive attitude about it. The key will be that the committee is actually composed of bona fide F-Class shooters, not just shooters from some other discipline that may have participated in F-Class a few times and really don't have a vested interest in F-Class shooting.

All the committees have been neglected, that is why adding another isn’t going to improve the product.

The advantage Fclass has, there are no “trophies” with years of history like high power has both prone and XTC. Those trophies have meaning to many, and provide a bunch of history.

Because Fclass doesn’t have that, going to CMP and continuing the sport with them really makes a lot of sense. It does for all the competitive sports in actuality, but the trophies are a major hang up for those sports that have been around longer.

These committees usually have 1 rep who isn’t either a board member or directly working with the NRA and national matches. From the past, that one rep usually was not really listened to and just there as a showing of “trying” to be inclusive but in practice they were not used for their knowledge.

Maybe this will be good, but if it further drives a divide between conventional sling prone events and fclass that is a bad thing. The sports are dying fast enough on their own, increasing animosity and having two committees working in vacuums won’t improve the situation.

 

[Rope2horns]

I would like to nominate Norm H. as the Supreme Leader of our new F-Class Overlords.

That dumbazz isn't qualified.

But there are plenty in our sport that are....IMO they need to be smart (obviously), a match director or at least played one at some point and a current shooter. And not a NRA suckazz.

 

[Acyr]

I don't understand what they are trying to achieve by creating a new committee.
F Class is a small shooting sport in the big scheme of things. Call me a cynic but all I see happening is the newly anointed members will just drag out the same dead horses from behind the barn and start handing out sticks.
Or worse yet not allow us to have any sticks at all.

 

[Stumpy1]

Maybe this will be good, but if it further drives a divide between conventional sling prone events and fclass that is a bad thing. The sports are dying fast enough on their own, increasing animosity and having two committees working in vacuums won’t improve the situation.

This is my fear -I hope that it doesn't work out like this.

Frank

 

[Medic505]

Fclass should be going to CMP

CMP doesn't give 2 shits about F Class. All it takes is one look at their official score card. It just says F Class. No distinction between Open and TR. We're just another thorn in the side of sling shooters.

 

[clowdis]

We're just another thorn in the side of sling shooters.

REALLY?! I'm freaking speechless!

 

[Medic505]

REALLY?! I'm freaking speechless!

REALLY? About what?

 

[ngb1787]

CMP doesn't give 2 shits about F Class. All it takes is one look at their official score card. It just says F Class. No distinction between Open and TR. We're just another thorn in the side of sling shooters.

Perhaps a conversation with the CMP could give a better perspective on whether or not they have an interest in fclass. They have staffing, financial means and etargets. They are surely serious about competitive shooting. They have been expanding their pistol interests over the last few years so why not fclass?

 

[Taildrag15X]

F-Class, born from Fullbore in Canada and carried over to High Power, following the Rules already written....not just to be another discipline, but to let old guys with bad eyes and worn-out bodies still compete with optics and rests.

I don't think this will be a good thing.

 

[tvaught]

I'm very encouraged by this new committee.

Build it they will come. I'm seeing the results of that mindset at my local club. Hard work by Woody, Carl, and the Fonz are bearing fruit.

It'll move some cheese, and hurt some feelings inevitably, that's just a part of progress.

If you look at the path PRS/NRL took, there were some bumps in the road. Some big ones. And it now being a fully mature Discipline, with Series points and finales, and $$$$ and sponsors....there's still whining and bitching.

I'd suggest to take the energy and effort you'd use to look for potential problems with a newly formed committee in a new budding growing discipline, would be better put to use to load extra ammo for a new shooter to use it in your rifle for the next match.

Just one humble perspective.

 

[Downeast]

F-Class, born from Fullbore in Canada and carried over to High Power, following the Rules already written....not just to be another discipline, but to let old guys with bad eyes and worn-out bodies still compete with optics and rests.

I don't think this will be a good thing.

Most of the competitive shooting sports are full of old guys with bad eyes. If you want to see shooters that aren't sipping the Geritol then go visit a PRS match. That's where the kids are. Does NRA and CMP gives a rats butt about PRS? Nope. And the PRS folks don't give a rats butt about the NRA, CMP, F Class, HP, or sling shooters either. Pick up any shooting magazine and it will be full of rifle pics and articles pertaining to PRS. You rarely ever see a F class or sling rig in them because those are old and dying grandpa's sports. Here in NC PRS match locations far exceed any other rifle shooting venue.

 

[Cochran]

I’d start with Skip Barkley, Jeff Roher, Joe Meyer, and David Gosnell.

 

[USMCDOC]

Perhaps a conversation with the CMP could give a better perspective on whether or not they have an interest in fclass. They have staffing, financial means and etargets. They are surely serious about competitive shooting. They have been expanding their pistol interests over the last few years so why not fclass?

apparently there is, ,, they added it to the Smallbore program last year..

 

[Downeast]

CMP Now Offering Mid-Range 3x600 Local Match Sanctioning - Civilian Marksmanship Program

As part of an ever-growing list of competitive opportunities, the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) has prepared a Mid-Range 3×600 Long Range event to its list of available matches able to be sanctioned at local clubs. Match sanctioning allows CMP Affiliated Clubs to host a number of...

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[Chocdawg]

Most of the competitive shooting sports are full of old guys with bad eyes. If you want to see shooters that aren't sipping the Geritol then go visit a PRS match. That's where the kids are. Does NRA and CMP gives a rats butt about PRS? Nope. And the PRS folks don't give a rats butt about the NRA, CMP, F Class, HP, or sling shooters either. Pick up any shooting magazine and it will be full of rifle pics and articles pertaining to PRS. You rarely ever see a F class or sling rig in them because those are old and dying grandpa's sports. Here in NC PRS match locations far exceed any other rifle shooting venue.

PRS organizations have clearly, and successfully applied proven marketing tactics.

 

[danny]

The NRA Board of Directors meeting today in Dallas, Texas, just voted to create a new permanent standing committee just for F-Class.

The new committee is called the F-Class High Power Rifle Committee and will have jurisdiction over all F-Class High Power Rifle Competition rules and programs. This means that the old High Power Rifle Committee will no longer have jurisdiction over F-Class.

F-Class is now officially a full-blown, mature, stand-alone shooting discipline, independent and separate from the rest of High Power.

Does this mean that F Class is going to go shoot their discipline in their own events, clubs, etc., (fingers crossed) away from Highpower Events?

Danny

 

[Steve Blair]

"Let’s be honest, with where the NRA is in legal issues it isn’t going to last much longer."

“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
— Yogi Berra

 

[dbramley]

Generally I don't comment, and I wrote an entire essay on why this is good. But in light of not causing any drama, I deleted it. If you don't see why this is a good thing and why it is necessary you have never been to DC and sit in on a high power committee meeting as a F class representative.

 

[Chocdawg]

apparently there is, ,, they added it to the Smallbore program last year..

And with that spiffy western sport shooting complex (UT?) what better venue to have it at.