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Hiking in bear country?!?

While the term " scarey" gets thrown around and Black bears get compared to Yogi and Bo Bo talk to the family who an elderly lady was killed and eaten about 6 years ago west of Kalispell by a black bear about as scarey as a bunny rabbit.
Granted she was feeding the bear and should not have been the bear broke into her house killed her, I dont think they ever did find that bear.
Several years ago, a man was taken down, killed, and partially eaten by a black bear at Liard Hot Springs. Years before that, a geologist was killed and eaten by a very large black bear, also in northern B.C. They are predators. WH
 
While the term " scarey" gets thrown around and Black bears get compared to Yogi and Bo Bo talk to the family who an elderly lady was killed and eaten about 6 years ago west of Kalispell by a black bear about as scarey as a bunny rabbit.
Granted she was feeding the bear and should not have been the bear broke into her house killed her, I dont think they ever did find that bear.
Fed bear is a dear bear
 
Isn't that what there doing in your campground getting fed?
Getting into tents, ice chests food thats left out.
Yes, although we have bear proof food storage boxes and dumpsters after an unfortunate incident a decade ago. But still, 120 camp fires all cooking food is pretty tempting.
 
Thinking of bears and what they eat:
The campsite, where the grizzly had circled and caused the Airdale to growl, wasd located on a tributary to the Flathead and was just about a half mile down from a nice basin where I had seen some nice rams. I spent three nights there while I proved rams were never there when I really wanted to see one. Just befo0re I left, I cooked up a box of Kraft dinner to compliment some fish I had caught. I couldn't eat all the KD so I just dumped the leftover potion on a rock beside my fire ring. I figured th
e e bear could have it. I hiked back up there a week later. There were bear tracks all through my sleeping area and the KD was still right there! Says something about the edibility of KD!
On that watershed, I see grizzlies often but have never seen a black bear. Three watersheds to the south, I see plenty of blacks but no grizzlies. Interestingly enough, there are wolves in the grizzly area but not in the black bear area. I have no explanation for this. WH
 
My dad worked summers in the woods in the Clearwater region of N. Idaho before and after WW II. There was once a problem black bear hanging around a work camp's garbage dump. Some old timer took a wooden bucket and drove three or four big nails into it at intervals around it's circumference, baited it, and set it out. The bear stuck it's head into the bucket, then the nails grabbed and held it in place when he tried to back out. Paniced, the bear charged blindly straight into a large pine tree, head first. The bucket exploded into segments and the bear dropped dead.
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Several years ago, a man was taken down, killed, and partially eaten by a black bear at Liard Hot Springs. Years before that, a geologist was killed and eaten by a very large black bear, also in northern B.C. They are predators. WH
A mom was also killed and her daughter severely mauled. It happened on the boardwalk right as you start entering the tree’s to the first pool area.

When I camp up there everything is in an air tight and up a tree, and I’ve still had bear issues at Liards. Park attendant said they have to dispose of 35-50 bears a year.

It’s also normal for pools 2-3 to be shut down due to bears.

A 10 year old was dragged out of his tent too in Hillards Bay on Lesser Slave. His parents were in the camper 20 feet away.
 
In Glacier I carry a small 9mm loaded with hardcast 147s that do not expand. And bear spray. Neither one is any use if you aren’t incredibly attentive and obsessively scanning your surroundings. No firearm is good enough it can compensate for inattentiveness.
 
Exactly, so a fed bear is not always a dead bear.
Always and never are indeed words that I try to avoid, for good reason. I’m not trying to get into a peepee measuring contest with anyone in this forum. It’s the best one with the most professional level shooting information. I can happily bow out of the conversation if my experiences in my region differ and offends other with there experiences.

Cheers
 
Living central BC there are a lot of black bears and grizzlies.

Because there are many more black bear than grizz, the black bears are more of a problem.

With black bear watch your back trail, more than a few times you will see a b bear cross or somewhere in front of you and find that the bear is behind you.

With grizz ( among what others have mentioned) use your nose. A few people have had bad encounter with a grizz as they have stumbled unto a cache and the bear is near by protecting it.

Teen aged Black Bear seem to be the worst for getting into trouble as they get batted around trying to find a territory, could be starved or injured and look for easy pickens in desperation.

If you carry a fire arm it should be in your hands, especially in tight quarters.

When my wife and I are hiking we put a Dominion 13" Backpacker in 12 gauge, it is a single shot placed in a back pack with but sticking out, either one of us (who ever is wearing the back pack) has easy access to it by the other.

You will likely only get one shot away before all hell breaks loose anyway, shot will be taken at spitting distance.
 
I don’t care if it’s a Grizzly or a Black Bear, they both have really sharp claws. Our problem is that the Grizzly doesn’t have any one hunting them so they basically go wherever they want until the game dept traps for re locating or some poor sap ends up shooting one and then you have to make a choice to call it in, call for help or get the hell out of there.
 
With ballistics being quite similar, at least in 300gr bullet weight class, would a quality 450 Bushmaster be an acceptable replacement for 45-70 as a long gun for hiking in bear country?
 
This question is directed mainly to those of you that live, work, and play in bear country.

The fam has talked me into a vacation to Montana, now I find out that a shed hunter was killed about a week ago by a grizzly in the same place we are headed.

I have spent my life outdoors and hunting the kind of animals that don't hunt you back, I am ignorant about that type country and the animals there, I have a deep respect for both and the dangers they may present. I am currently gathering as much info as I can on the former to try and pepair myself and looking into how to legally carry a defense weapon, but the issue is which one.

I have put thousands of rounds on target, with some under a little stress (local competition) and I am very comfortable with that firearm and it is also my daily companion, unfortunately it is a 9mm. A 44 mag is the caliber I believe would be the best choice, all things considered. I own a 44 mag but it is a longer pistol set up for hunting and I cannot tell you the last time I have fired it, and I have no solid bullet ammunition in 44 mag it is all expanding. I also have a 10mm in a 1911 and enough 180 grain solid ammo to put 300 to 400 rounds down range for practice.

I have always said that six hits with a .22 was better than six misses wit a .45, but I'm not sure it applies in this case. So what is your opinion on my choices? I have one month to prepair
Use the high capacity 9mm that I shoot very well with fmj bullets?
Get to work and get up to speed with the 7 round capacity 10mm?
Buy a 4" 44 mag and hope to find enough solid amuntion to do what I need to prepair?

FYI, everyone on this trip is close family so out running one of them is not an option.

Thanks in adance for all input and advice of any kind about this part of our country.
 

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