6 PPC barrel life?

[Performance Shooting]

6 PPC barrel life?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

1200-1500 to win. 2800 for prairie dogs and local matches

 

[swadiver]

Hey Dusty, if you shoot reduced loads, say around 27grs of N133 with the 64 to 68gr class of bullets and no rapid fire, can you expect a significant increase beyond the 1500 rds of best performance?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Hey Dusty, if you shoot reduced loads, say around 27grs of N133 with the 64 to 68gr class of bullets and no rapid fire, can you expect a significant increase beyond the 1500 rds of best performance?

Im sure you could but if you cant win why even try? Its like shooting off the shelf bullets and staying in mid pack- but man youre saving money right?

 

[jackieschmidt]

The best agging capability of the 6 PPC is usually in the upper load window. That means somewhere in the neighborhood of 65,000+ psi at 3400+ FPS with a typical 68 grn Benchrest Bullet.

You will probably see Match winning accuracy start to fade at about 800 rounds.

 

[swadiver]

Im sure you could but if you cant win why even try? Its like shooting off the shelf bullets and staying in mid pack- but man youre saving money right?

i should have clarified, i am not shooting competition with the PPC. just shooting for fun and profit.(negative profit)

 

[Dusty Stevens]

i should have clarified, i am not shooting competition with the PPC. just shooting for fun and profit.(negative profit)

Probably 2000+ then. Itll still shoot real well just not at a match

 

[Ranger188]

Those of you shooting in competitions, how many firings on your brass
before it goes? (6ppc) close estimation

 

[swadiver]

Probably 2000+ then. Itll still shoot real well just not at a match

thanks much.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Those of you shooting in competitions, how many firings on your brass
before it goes? (6ppc) close estimation

Maybe 10 yrs or so ago the winner of the Super Shoot was asked that in an interview. Is answer I think was the brass he shoot with had around 100 loadings. If you anneal, as long as your primer pockets don't leak, keep shooting it. The gentleman's name escapes me but I think he was a school teacher from Eastern Pa. The interview was in Precision Shooting. Lot of myths and thoughts in this game with no black and white proof. Best thing is do what gives you the results your looking for.example., do you need to sort custom bullets for 100 200 yd benchrest. Probably not. If your going to shoot past 300 yds with the same set up you might want to be sure you don't send an odd bullet down to your 500 yd target. Just might make an x a 10. Could cost you a match.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Those of you shooting in competitions, how many firings on your brass
before it goes? (6ppc) close estimation

If you are in the upper load window, (30+ Grns of 133), the first thing to get loose will be the primer pockets. This could happen in as little as six or seven firings. It’s not that big of a deal as long as they have some fit. You don’t want them falling out on the bench during a match.

The next is the web, that area just fwd of the extractor groove, simply will not size down. I modified a die so I can press the case in so it does hit the web hard, but even that will only give you two to three more firings.

If you drop the load down into the middle window, 29.0 grns, case life is extended to a fair degree. I know guys that use up a barrel with 25 cases. They rarely shoot very well, but as long as they are enjoying the experience, that’s what counts.

How you shoot a 6PPC all depends on your combination’s agging capability. I feel safe in saying that quite a few top Benchrest Shooters are shooting in that upper load window. I have seen many walk by a trash can at the end of the week end and just dump the cases.

One very well known and very successful shooter shoots way down in the lower node. I think around 27.5 grns of 133.

I have no idea how he does it.

 

[swadiver]

got plenty of Norma 6PPC brass, so brass life is not the issue right now. more concerned with barrel life. i know i could agg better at the upper nodes, but as i said just shooting for fun, no competition

 

[Walt Krafft]

Barrels are a consumable. Just get another one and put it on when you are not satisfied with the accuracy of your current barrel.

 

[swadiver]

Walt, thanks, well aware of the consumabilty of barrels. barrel i now have shoots great. just want to extend it's life as much as possible with excellent, but not necessarily match wining precision, since I DON"T COMPETE WITH THIS RIFLE.

 

[AckleymanII]

6 PPC barrel life?

For what purpose?

 

[JEFFPPC]

It might also be dependent on the ability of the operator to keep it in competitive tune.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Walt, thanks, well aware of the consumabilty of barrels. barrel i now have shoots great. just want to extend it's life as much as possible with excellent, but not necessarily match wining precision, since I DON"T COMPETE WITH THIS RIFLE.

Man not competing you can run a ppc barrel forever. Ive sent some of my wore out br barrels with prairie dog shooters and get em back after a couple thou rounds and they would still outshoot most rifles. Cant find the lands but they still shoot real good

 

[swadiver]

Man not competing you can run a ppc barrel forever. Ive sent some of my wore out br barrels with prairie dog shooters and get em back after a couple thou rounds and they would still outshoot most rifles. Cant find the lands but they still shoot real good

thanks much

 

[swadiver]

For what purpose?

as i said above fun and negative profit. just like to shoot tiny groups for my own amusement

 

[JEFFPPC]

Man not competing you can run a ppc barrel forever. Ive sent some of my wore out br barrels with prairie dog shooters and get em back after a couple thou rounds and they would still outshoot most rifles. Cant find the lands but they still shoot real good

I whole heartedly agree. I tell new shooters to buy a used bench gun of known origin and shoot it the way it is for a year. They will learn the ropes and in a PPC or 6br format it will be the most accurate rifle they ever shot no matter how many rounds are down the barrel. Get a new barrel to start the second year and your good to go. Lot of good PPCs around, some with multiple barrels selling for less than you could buy the components even without the gunsmithing fees.