Stock painting a how to

[butchlambert]

Possibly water in the air, trapped solvent from pounding on primer and clear without waiting for proper flash times, mould release agent as @Dusty Stevens suggested, or any combination of would be my guess.
If you popped a bubble could you smell solvent?

No I didn't pop any bubbles and smell them. Somebody else is worrying about them 20 years ago. I've seen and owned a few nice ones. Actually until I found Kavanaugh the problem I had was they would use too much material and it was a problem making weight.

 

[Bc'z]

No I didn't pop any bubbles and smell them. Somebody else is worrying about them 20 years ago. I've seen and owned a few nice ones. Actually until I found Kavanaugh the problem I had was they would use too much material and it was a problem making weight.

That reminds me...
I need to weigh a stock before and after to no if I'm overloading.
I should have Terry Leonard's last stock here Friday for paint. I know he made them out of cedar to keep weight down.
I'll be tempering the wood 2 times before sealing with bond tech.
This will be interesting to see.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

That reminds me...
I need to weigh a stock before and after to no if I'm overloading.
I should have Terry Leonard's last stock here Friday for paint. I know he made them out of cedar to keep weight down.
I'll be tempering the wood 2 times before sealing with bond tech.
This will be interesting to see.

Yes youre way over weight if it was to be a lv weight rifle. 4 oz is typical for a br paintjob. The lv stock you did for me was 10oz and didnt need much filler. If the weight would have mattered i would have told you. I have one coming up we can work on.

 

[Bc'z]

Yes youre way over weight if it was to be a lv weight rifle. 4 oz is typical for a br paintjob. The lv stock you did for me was 10oz and didnt need much filler. If the weight would have mattered i would have told you. I have one coming up we can work on.

Only option I can think of is to sand off more gel coat to compensate for materials used.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

We’ll discuss it but those both arent good options

 

[Bc'z]

We’ll discuss it but those both arent good options

What might you suggest?
The weight has to come from somewhere.
If I'm tasked to paint a stock it's because the owner wants it to look good. And the only way to make a composite stock look good is to even out the highs and lows, both by blocking the substrate and the use of filler.
I block my heavy fill primer with 2 grits 1st block for straightening and the 2nd to lighten the scratch and remove millage. My second prime is basically done with a sealer that has a minimum film build, but allows me to create a smooth finish for paint, and is also chosen by color to be the best color for quick hiding of base coat for quickest coverage with a minimum film build.
Suggestions?
Maybe lose 1/4"-3/8" of that heavy ass barrel?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

What might you suggest?
The weight has to come from somewhere.
If I'm tasked to paint a stock it's because the owner wants it to look good. And the only way to make a composite stock look good is to even out the highs and lows, both by blocking the substrate and the use of filler.
I block my heavy fill primer with 2 grits 1st block for straightening and the 2nd to lighten the scratch and remove millage. My second prime is basically done with a sealer that has a minimum film build, but allows me to create a smooth finish for paint, and is also chosen by color to be the best color for quick hiding of base coat for quickest coverage with a minimum film build.
Suggestions?
Maybe lose 1/4"-3/8" of that heavy ass barrel?

Barrels are already too short on a lv. Scopes done got alot heavier too

 

[Bc'z]

Barrels are already too short on a lv. Scopes done got alot heavier too

Plastic trigger guard?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Plastic trigger guard?

No butt plate?

 

[Bc'z]

That explains the moulded butt.
I was also going to suggest removing material in front of trigger guard mounting location

 

[Dusty Stevens]

The ones i use are 1.5oz. I can get them to 1oz if i need to. Theyre very light

 

[joshb]

Plastic trigger guard?

Nah. Hollow it out and fill it with helium!

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Nah. Hollow it out and fill it with helium!

Actually the foam in the stock AND the bedding material comes into play. Here is a panda ppc chamber and this along with the width of the cutoff tool made an unpainted kelbly br stock come into weight with a new paintjob. Take it off the big end. Needs a new chamber anyway.

 

[xswanted]

Very cool!

I love painting stocks myself however after seeing this my rattle can masterpieces and processes seem rather juvenile compared to this!

Beautiful work.

 

[Bc'z]

Very cool!

I love painting stocks myself however after seeing this my rattle can masterpieces and processes seem rather juvenile compared to this!

Beautiful work.

Thank you!
It's all good, the wife says I'm kinda juvenile and I should grow up!
I'll be ordering my rattle cans next week Wednesday when my sales rep comes by.
I was digging Christmas trees today, so we didn't hook up.
I have 2 stocks showing up and will do next demo after they are shipped.

 

[Hntndad]

Brett, you definitely have a mastered skill. I’ve been meaning to post some pics of the rattlecan 2k clear on a laminate muzzleloader stock of mine. I am of no where near your talent and I don’t have a nice shop. I use my garage. Drop sheet on the floor and I use plastic to hang a ceiling using the garage door tracks - 4 walls taped down. I cut 2 squares in the plastic - one each on opposing plastic walls - duct tape a household air return filter into one square and a box fan in the other facing out a partially opened garage door. Turn the box fan on lowest setting and use requires PPE.
I finished the sheen down a bit on the clear for hunting.

 

[Bc'z]

@Hntndad stock looks great!
Be proud of what you've done!
Sounds like you got a good spray room set up also.

FWIW, I'll be pretty stoked if my bomb can demo comes out looking that nice!
Lastly spray max has a 2k matt clear also.

 

[boltfluter]

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Brett,

That looks amazing! Always enjoy the many talented craftsman on this site.

Paul

 

[Fast14riot]

Brett, you manage to get away from all those VWs to pick up a few rattle cans yet?

 

[Bc'z]

Brett, you manage to get away from all those VWs to pick up a few rattle cans yet?

Nope!