Snowflake proof job

[garandman]

Being the tech your whole life is somewhat a dead end but learning the trade top to bottom and then opening your own shop is a bright future. One of the guys in my hunt club owns a shop. He’s clearing 15,000-20,000 a week and working 15-20 hours. He’ll also tell you he worked 80+ hours a week for many years getting started and hardly took a dime home. It’s the same for many trades. If you fail to make the leap to business owner the trades are often a dead end.

Exactly. You'll never find relative wealth working for someone else. You'll only help them find relative wealth.

 

[okie]

try to get help on a farm. near impossible. if they have skills, then they are already working...hope my boys dont end up hating me for all of the work they do...i try to reward them with rifles and reloading supplies as much as feasible. probably learn that farm/ranch is not what they want to do....

 

[KMart]

I am a framing contractor. I have been seeing this same thing for years. I have not seen any person under the age of 28 on the job in many years. I am nearly 50, my crew on this next house is all my age or older. Wages are going to go up huge in when my generation retires. There is no one out there around here that knows how to do it right, they think any idiot can do it. Not on the houses that I build, this one would probably sell for around $15,000,000. It took the concrete guys 3 months to pour the foundation.

The Houston area has been growing in leaps and bounds for years. You would be hard pressed to find a framing crew in this area, where English is their first language.

 

[Lee in Texas]

I’m a plumber. I don’t have a beach house or a fancy car, but I do have a serious Mauser and 1917 Enfield habit. I may even have to go hunting one of these days. Btw the average age of an apprentice plumber in Texas is 34, last time I heard.

 

[group therapy]

Easy.... 1-27/16. Did it in me head.

Or 2-11/16

 

[rammac]

Lol. I've had to use the metric system a lot while working international assignments for the last 5 years. I'm really starting to realize just how stupid Amersican standard system is. Lol. Definitely need to know metric these days. All automobiles are metric now, even the vehicles built in the USA, and a lot more things are following suit.

Metric is so easy to convert one way or the other mathematically. The hard part to adjust to is my visualization when guessing the size of an item in the proper metric unit. I'm getting there tho

Yup, it works great for a office worker or a designer but for a tradesman it's not nearly accurate enough when working with steel - that's why they resort to thousandths of an inch in Europe when they mill steel or do quality control work.

As for the German education system, that's a load of crap too. You didn't mention that the children are basically slaves to the company that sponsors their education, from the time a child is around 10 years old they become obligated, by a contract between their parents and the corporation, and they have to serve years of time with that company after they've finished their education. That always means that a skilled worker can be the slave of a corporation for over 20 years of their life. They trade their freedom for the potential of having a very lucrative career in some industry. If they find that they hate their job when they are 22 years old it doesn't matter, they have to continue working for another 10 years before they are free of their obligation. Some companies will offer an option to payoff the obligation/debt in cash but since the person would have to give up their high paying job they'd never find a way to actually pay the company back.

Sorry, I'm not enamored with anything European, not their education system, not their work environment, not their politics, nothing.

 

[rammac]

Easy.... 1-27/16. Did it in me head.

Here is another example of how different Europe and America is.

We use the acronym PEMDAS (parenthesis, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction from left to right) as the order of of mathematical operations, Europe uses BODMAS (Brackets, Orders, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction).

Try getting the same value for a mathematical problem that includes multiplication and division.

 

[garandman]

Here is another example of how different Europe and America is.

We use the acronym PEMDAS (parenthesis, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction from left to right) as the order of of mathematical operations, Europe uses BODMAS (Brackets, Orders, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction).

Try getting the same value for a mathematical problem that includes multiplication and division.

They are different. Neither is "better" or "stupid"

 

[jghoghunter]

To put your whole life into something then have the loss of mobility ... This made me wish I had balanced my skills to cover more mental skills.
I was oil/gas field then Casino. EVERYTHING I know depended on walking, standing all day.

Im the same way I spent 25 years as a pipefitter working 60-80 hrs a week. Go in for the second back operation and when i wake up the doc says "you are done being a pipefitter you are one slip and fall away from a wheelchair". Thats a hard pill to swallow when thats all you ever did from the age of 18. Now if i can stand for 15 minutes or walk 100 yards im im doing good. Retired on disability and now work my own stock making business. Its not pipefitting but it keeps me from going crazy.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Yup, it works great for a office worker or a designer but for a tradesman it's not nearly accurate enough when working with steel - that's why they resort to thousandths of an inch in Europe when they mill steel or do quality control work.

As for the German education system, that's a load of crap too. You didn't mention that the children are basically slaves to the company that sponsors their education, from the time a child is around 10 years old they become obligated, by a contract between their parents and the corporation, and they have to serve years of time with that company after they've finished their education. That always means that a skilled worker can be the slave of a corporation for over 20 years of their life. They trade their freedom for the potential of having a very lucrative career in some industry. If they find that they hate their job when they are 22 years old it doesn't matter, they have to continue working for another 10 years before they are free of their obligation. Some companies will offer an option to payoff the obligation/debt in cash but since the person would have to give up their high paying job they'd never find a way to actually pay the company back.

Sorry, I'm not enamored with anything European, not their education system, not their work environment, not their politics, nothing.

Wow...you sure took my comment and dove off the deep end with it.

Ever heard of microns? Far more accurate for any precision work humans are capable of doing with any machine. And far finer measurement than even ten thousandths of an inch (.0001") used in the SAE system.

 

[garandman]

Wow...you sure took my comment and dove off the deep end with it. Come back up for a breath bud

Ever heard of microns? Far more accurate for any precision work humans are capable of doing with any machine. And far finer measurement than even ten thousandths of an inch (.0001") used in the SAE system.

Yer right. Calling something that has lasted over 1,000 years "stupid" speaks for itself. We need not mention it further.

Personally, I would find it immensely admirable if you simply said "Yeah...I prolly shouldn't have used the word "stupid."


Have a nice day.

 

[garandman]

Or 2-11/16

<sigh> lol.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Yer right. Calling something that has lasted over 1,000 years "stupid" speaks for itself. We need not mention it further.

Personally, I would find it immensely admirable if you simply said "Yeah...I prolly shouldn't have used the word "stupid."


Have a nice day.

Now you are starting to sound like a snowflake. Lol! (dont get mad, totally just joking around)
I edited my post and changed the word from "stupid" to "difficult". Hope that helps you out

Wont mention it further here either.

 

[garandman]

Now you are starting to sound like a snowflake. Lol! (dont get mad, totally just joking around)
I edited my post and changed the word from "stupid" to "difficult". Hope that helps you out

Wont mention it further here either.

That's excellent. Peace be to you. (ancient Yiddish blessing)

 

[group therapy]

<sigh> lol.

 

[group therapy]

<sigh> lol.

I love this forum

 

[tmwinds]

When i was a lad in texas we had a class called “math of money”. It was a required class to graduate and taught you stuff like writing checks/balancing checkbooks, figuring interest, calculating compound interest, how different monies are valued against the dollar, etc. they cant even count change back right to the cash guys like me

The cash registers at McDonalds don't have numbers on them. They have pictures of Big Macs and other goodies. I half expect to get my change in French fries.

 

[Rube Shooter]

Yup... recently saw a car service technician tell a customer that the air in their tires needed changed... the customer just nodded their head and told them to proceed! Sad, very sad...

This is very sad to hear that not only did the salesman take advantage of the customer, but the customer is not educated enough to know this is a scam to pad the ticket. Makes me wonder if the service writer could pull off a deal to have the muffler bearings calibrated or the blinker fluid level sensor checked and fluid topped off if needed.

 

[rjtfroggy]

Im the same way I spent 25 years as a pipefitter working 60-80 hrs a week. Go in for the second back operation and when i wake up the doc says "you are done being a pipefitter you are one slip and fall away from a wheelchair". Thats a hard pill to swallow when thats all you ever did from the age of 18. Now if i can stand for 15 minutes or walk 100 yards im im doing good. Retired on disability and now work my own stock making business. Its not pipefitting but it keeps me from going crazy.

I ended up the same way,Firefighter for 21 years missed a flight of stairs and broke my lumbar spine, after the 3rd surgery in a year they told me to hang it up. Medical disability pension. Big problem was I made a lot more as an licensed oil burner tec made almost twice as much doing that but that came to a screeching halt also.
Same thing here can't walk far, can't sit or stand long and undisturbed sleep is not happening.

 

[garandman]

Two knee (1 each) surgeries makes setting up a 100 yd target a real challenge. I feel ya, homies.