New RCBS scale coming at some point

[JFrank]

RCBS is trying to move towards what Reloader s are looking for.

I’m sticking to my beam scales for now but that’s no surprise to anyone.

 

[22DASHER]

Seen this coming for awhile now. Glad I held back on the auto trickler setup.

 

[jimmymac]

Competition is good. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out performance wise and at what price point.

 

[DirtySteve]

RCBS is trying to move towards what Reloader s are looking for.

I’m sticking to my beam scales for now but that’s no surprise to anyone.

Yeah An updated made in Merica 10-10 would be a hoot..

 

[JFrank]

Yeah An updated made in Merica 10-10 would be a hoot..

It’s kinda slow’ lol

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Seen this coming for awhile now. Glad I held back on the auto trickler setup.

To my mind, if the RCBS scale is a strain scale it can only be marginally better than the existing model, the CM 1500 or lite. The A&D scale and similar, are magnetic force restoration scales and as such not subject to drifting like the strain scale and have fast solid response time. The repeatability of a strain scale is simply not up to the level of a good magnetic force restoration (MFR) scale, by its very design.

If you held back on the Autotrickler setup that runs on a MFR scale hoping that a cheaper strain scale will be just as good, prepare to be disillusioned. It's not just the accuracy of the scale, it is also the response as you trickle powder.

An MFR scale generates a magnetic field that holds the platen as a certain point. When you add some weight on the platen, the scale (a balance, really) will use more power to keep the platen at the same point in the vertical axis. By measuring the difference in power used, the balance calculates the weight that is placed on it. You can tell that your scale is an MFR design easily since you can feel the power applied to the platen as soon as it's plugged in. Just carefully put your finger on the platen and you can feel it.

A strain scale is a lot cheaper to manufacture and it measures, as the name implies, the amount of strain placed by the load on the platen. The loadcell in the scale will convert the force of that load to a digital signal that is used to measure the weight. These scales are fine to weigh something that does not change or change quickly. Also, they drift over time, whereas an MFR does not.

The price difference between MFR and strain is substantial; that's just the way it is.

 

[Prose]

Well, we’ll see.

 

[Ned Ludd]

That green light flashing on and off is likely to cause a few seizures.

 

[Fotheringill]

BTW and as an aside. Wherever a scale or anything else is made from shoes to scales and beyond, it will be made to the specs the importer has set. If something is off, they don't have to accept delivery.

 

[B23]

Any idea of when this new RCBS scale will be available for consumer purchase???

 

[jthor]

Any idea of when this new RCBS scale will be available for consumer purchase???

No idea. RCBS themselves haven’t said a thing.

 

[jthor]

This fall.

 

[CT10ring]

To my mind, if the RCBS scale is a strain scale it can only be marginally better than the existing model, the CM 1500 or lite. The A&D scale and similar, are magnetic force restoration scales and as such not subject to drifting like the strain scale and have fast solid response time. The repeatability of a strain scale is simply not up to the level of a good magnetic force restoration (MFR) scale, by its very design.

If you held back on the Autotrickler setup that runs on a MFR scale hoping that a cheaper strain scale will be just as good, prepare to be disillusioned. It's not just the accuracy of the scale, it is also the response as you trickle powder.

An MFR scale generates a magnetic field that holds the platen as a certain point. When you add some weight on the platen, the scale (a balance, really) will use more power to keep the platen at the same point in the vertical axis. By measuring the difference in power used, the balance calculates the weight that is placed on it. You can tell that your scale is an MFR design easily since you can feel the power applied to the platen as soon as it's plugged in. Just carefully put your finger on the platen and you can feel it.

A strain scale is a lot cheaper to manufacture and it measures, as the name implies, the amount of strain placed by the load on the platen. The loadcell in the scale will convert the force of that load to a digital signal that is used to measure the weight. These scales are fine to weigh something that does not change or change quickly. Also, they drift over time, whereas an MFR does not.

The price difference between MFR and strain is substantial; that's just the way it is.

good info, thx for post.

 

[jthor]

Also looks like it comes with 2 different sized weights. Most likely 50 grams and then 100 grams for calibration. Bigger wind blocker and then the level is in the middle.

 

[jimmymac]

Where are you getting this info from? Thanks.

 

[Joe Salt]

And when it doesn't work anymore like there old one, and you call to see if you can send it back for repair! Oh we don't have parts for those anymore. Just like there A-4 press.

Joe Salt

 

[Shinbone]

Personally, I will wait for the new scale to be put into use before concluding it won't work.

 

[reloaderguy]

My CM was a piece of junk. I don't see adding an extra zero improving the cheapness.

 

[LCazador]

And when it doesn't work anymore like there old one, and you call to see if you can send it back for repair! Oh we don't have parts for those anymore. Just like there A-4 press.

Joe Salt

Yep my very concern. If it doesn't go like they plan, RCBS pulls out and you figure it out. They did it with the Pact scale. But then again that's modern "throw away" technology. Throw it away or let someone else worry about it!

 

[jimmymac]

Rough crowd. The thing isn't even released yet.