Vortex Golden Eagle parallax ?
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I Zeroing new scope at 100 yards I just wanted to see what it shoot at 300 yards. .308 43.4 grains of Varget CBTO of 2.95 inches. I an going to adjust the CBTO from 2.90 to 2.30 in .02 steps .90,.92 .94 .96 .98 .30
no it is worst it is a 12 inch it is a new barrel sweat spot for load is 43.4. I was working on bullet CBTO when my scope went south. I will be fine tuning bullet seating depth this weekend. My on old barrel CBTO was 2.92 and shot great till it warmed up. Below is 300yards then warmed up. New barrel has just 307 rounds through it now.
I went out to test my scope out in competition this past weekend. I had a hard tine holding the cross hair on one spot on the target and my target look like I was using a 12 gauge with 00 buckshot. When I got hone and found the problem it was not the Golden Eagle flout. It was the bent pin in my folding lock up piece. I have put the sold tube on and will test again this weekend. The GE stayed clear all day just had to adjust for mirage when the sun came out. The aperture reducer work great.
CaptainMal
Silver $$ Contributor
Oh my. That is a joke. Never should they have sent it "repaired" back to you. Not good PR for Golden Eagle.
Do a follow-up if/when it's properly repaired.
They did not repaired my first scope they sent me a New one? I think
Companies like Vortex and Athlon are brands not real manufacturers mostly seling branded stuff , throw the 'repair' in the trash bin and send you a new one is standard in all but the most expensive scopes.
Having personaly worked with asian OEM scope manufacturers in the past i can tell you that scopes cost 1/4th to 1/3rd of retail price when they are bought from OEMs ,so is waste of time to repair if any serius issue that would requre scope to be taken apart and its easyer to keep customers happy with brand new scope. Its all factored in the price.
Actually Vortex does manufacture their AMG line in house. Not just rebranding. Yes some of the cheaper scopes are but they do manufacture.
They also tear apart the Razor II scopes that come in the country and add their own internals.
From Frank's post seen here. https://www.snipershide.com/scope-buying-advice/
"Today, in 2017, you are not gonna win by simply choosing a country of origin. Scopes Made in Japan, probably the most plentiful of the bunch are excellent. Consider this, the majority of great cameras come from Japan. Nobody bitches about Nikon or Canon coming from Japan. It’s all in the spec as they have the same machines we do that can hold very respectable tolerances. It comes down to what the vendors want to pay, and how much Quality Control goes into the scope. An example of this is the Vortex Get 2 Razor. It’s a widely popular, very reliable scope that is also Marked Made in Japan. Vortex Spec’s it out a certain way than when they arrive in the US, Vortex tears them apart. Yes, that scope is cheaper to get it into the country complete, after which Vortex replaces the internals to ones made here in the US. It’s not enough to change the country of origin, but it is an important reason why those scopes work so well."
I seriously doubt that , vortex yesterdays no-name brand ,making knobs that people makeing scope knobs since 60' couldn't replicate !! LOW japan is strictly an OEM manufacturer . Vortex knobs at least on Razors have no advanced feature i know of that would set them significantly apart.
You od realise even NF uses Japanese LOW components and Japanese engineers designed part of their lineup.
Google korean car imports , same reasons same methods , finished cars were disasebled in port warehouses to be later reassembled and sometimes new trim and wheels added to skirt tarifs that were much less than they are for optics.
You od realise even NF uses Japanese LOW components and Japanese engineers designed part of their lineup.
Google korean car imports , same reasons same methods , finished cars were disasebled in port warehouses to be later reassembled and sometimes new trim and wheels added to skirt tarifs that were much less than they are for optics.
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I never said they couldn't replicate it if they took one and reverse engineered it but they aren't given the chance. The Vortex knobs have a clickless zero and are locking that the only other I know that's similar is the USO EREK with it's center screw and that is not as easily adjusted and it doesn't lock. No other knob besides the AMG is like it or zeros like it.
I know about LOW and who they build for and they are a good company but the Vortex is taken apart due to the knobs. Not tariffs. I have shot for Vortyex for 4 years and know their head engineer and many other people at the company. I am not guessing or assuming why things are done like they are. I know.
I know about LOW and who they build for and they are a good company but the Vortex is taken apart due to the knobs. Not tariffs. I have shot for Vortyex for 4 years and know their head engineer and many other people at the company. I am not guessing or assuming why things are done like they are. I know.
Ned Ludd
Silver $$ Contributor
Bill, that's because they must know you shoot on Range 117 at Camp Pendleton. They're just trying to help you out with severe slope on the firing line for lanes 6-10 where the F-TR shooters usually end up
.Micmac
Has hit the nail on the head,
I've been thinking that exact same thing,
That 1/4-1/3 probably includes middle Man and shipping!
I believe a lot of people would be surprised to see scopes they swear bye being produced right next to ones they trash here.
Same scope- different name
Jim
In this case the spec seem to be the same and some very particular details indicate same internals. Erector is definetly the same , as is the paralax assembly with very specific adjustment range, turret design 100% same just knobs look slightly different (brand consitent ornamental shit) ,ilumination same, Both HD glass (ok that dosent mean much) ,now only glass specs themselves are imposible to know . But you give way to much credit to Branded “Manufacturer” involvment into scope design- my experiece working with an asian OEM was that its a shoping wish list that gets tweaked for cost quite a bit and BM dna addition often ends at Industrial design level and packaging and reticles (pariculary tactical reticles are hard there is lots of culling even with good manufacturers that is why they end up as more expenisve part even tough they are not that expensive to make).
You and I can today get bunch of scopes made under our brand without us having any clue whatsoever about optics design , we can with no problem support a lifetime warranty on our scopes knowing full well that 90+% of scopes don't see much use at all and even if some have issues will never be noticed and we deal with those couple of % of users that actualy use them enough . We factor in cost of replacing small percentage of these scopes while setting up a small one man service department and 2 man call line (great service on the phone serves Brand well), but shouldn't cost too much and primarily deals with the 'dafter end users'(plenty of those around) that end up with ither minor and/or user induced issues that in many cases do not require the scopes to be striped past the external stuff and indentifying scopes that are beyond such service and need replacment. That one man service line can at same time with serve as QC department so we can check to see if what OEM is shipping us is what we are paying for.
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Erectors are not the same in the Razor II. I know this for fact. They may ship to Vortex with the same but they aren't sent to customers with them. Other parts as well as you can see the lathe turning out power rings in the video. You may know a lot about that OEM optics lines as they come from the maker but I know a good deal about what is going on at Vortex and what they are sending to customers and it's not the same products as you think. Just because the bodies look similar doesn't mean they are the same.
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