Starting to hate bore scopes

[forsyth793]

"Starting to hate borescopes...."

I guarantee you that you aint hating them as much as some barrel makers and gun companies are!!! You hate hearing about them??? The makers hate that their products are outed for the junk they truly are and might have to raise their standards to keep on selling their products.
Some people started out thinking that they wanted to make barrels and guns...then they realized that all they really want is the money!!!

Some Gunsmith Friends think an individual should be Licensed to be able to Purchase One

 

[Riesel]

Where the borescope can help is when that barrel that can look sooooo bad and shoots sooooo good starts to not shoot sooooo good.

Agreed

 

[jonbearman]

I didn't have one till this year and I have the lyman version which works real well for me. The best part is I can see damage like fire cracking along with copper that I may have missed. I don't go crazy and little tiny imperfections don't bother me either as I only worry how it shoots.

 

[arnie]

A friend of mine's nephew bought a supposedly new ar upper .He had the shop take off the flash hider and put a muzzle brake on it .When he got it home , the bolt would not enter the extension .He brought it to me and I could see they loosened the flash hider with the upper receiver in the vise and sheard the locating pin enough to make the barrel turn just out of time .I then looked at the inside of the barrel with my Lyman scope and you could see the barrel had been shot a lot .Not new at all .I took pictures of it and he and his uncle went back to the shop and after offering to show them the pictures they gave him a new upper .

 

[Joe Salt]

Another reason to have a bore scope is that you can see if you left any pieces of string from your patches. Yes I know a lot of you use the patches that don't come apart. So give me an address I really like them.

Joe Salt

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Another reason to have a bore scope is that you can see if you left any pieces of string from your patches. Yes I know a lot of you use the patches that don't come apart. So give me an address I really like them.

Joe Salt

Butch's makes patches with no strings but i dont like em. Solvent just runs off unless youre real careful.

 

[seymour fish]

A friend of mine's nephew bought a supposedly new ar upper .He had the shop take off the flash hider and put a muzzle brake on it .When he got it home , the bolt would not enter the extension .He brought it to me and I could see they loosened the flash hider with the upper receiver in the vise and sheard the locating pin enough to make the barrel turn just out of time .I then looked at the inside of the barrel with my Lyman scope and you could see the barrel had been shot a lot .Not new at all .I took pictures of it and he and his uncle went back to the shop and after offering to show them the pictures they gave him a new upper .

Consider the value of scoping a used rifle before you purchase. Kept me from buying a 280 ai once. Lands were completely flattened 2” past the throat

 

[CaptainMal]

Disagree. One of the best things I bought and use. It has spotted problems I have corrected, from cleaning, machining or just selling away. Great way to evaluate the quality of a build.

It's nice to actually see what is going on instead of just squinting at a shiny hole and missing the real truth. You a silly boy.

 

[Someoldguy]

Did your missing chunk of land look kinda like this, perhaps?

A very good friend bought a Hawkeye a few years back. First thing he did was scope the barrel on his prized tight-shooting Savage 243. To his surprise, the barrel looked like it was rifled with a chisel and file. Unfortunately, cancer took him about a year later and the scope became mine.
I never judge a book by its cover. Mostly I used the scope to learn how to clean a barrel in the most efficient manner but I did find a chunk of rifling missing from a R700 barrel that was no longer shooting its best. I was also able to see the issue when my NIB R700 in 223 bolt would not close on a factory round.

Bore scopes are a tool, just like any other. And it is the responsibility of the owner to know how to use it to his/her advantage.

 

[dmoran]

Another old thread (from May 2016) re-opened...

Bore-scopes serve as a very useful tool for me, with ability to answer many questions. That without were guess' or theorem at best. If for nothing else, they have told me how much to clean the barrels and what process' and products have the best or least effect, which has saved me money.

The targets are what tell me how accurate barrels are across there entire life.
The bore-scope monitors the life span and tells me how to maintenance them.

My 2-Cents
Donovan

 

[dogdude]

+1 to everything Donovan typed... I couldn't live with out one..would never go to the line with out knowing what was going on inside.

 

[msinc]

Some Gunsmith Friends think an individual should be Licensed to be able to Purchase One

Yes, god forbid any average guy dare be able to find out that the barrel he really was counting on to be fantastic is nothing but a blob of Schidt!!!! Why not just make it easy and take away all our guns so we cant complain????

 

[wholman]

I wish I could afford a good bore scope.
If only for the carbon ring.

 

[Someoldguy]

I wish I could afford a good bore scope.
If only for the carbon ring.

Try a Lyman Borecam. Plenty good enough to see a carbon ring, for about $200 or so. Keep the camera end clean and dry, and I think you'll be happy.

 

[wholman]

Thank you for the suggestion I may try that.

 

[cfreeman]

Thank you for the suggestion I may try that.

Monmouth Reloading usually has them for a good price, Lyman borecam that is

 

[Someoldguy]

Monmouth Reloading usually has them for a good price, Lyman borecam that is

Monmouth is a good place to do business with. I'm not affiliated with them in ANY way, just a satisfied customer.

Now back to your regular programing.

 

[chop house]

Consider the value of scoping a used rifle before you purchase

absolutely. i carry a scope to the shows and it is a powerful tool during negotiations on that ... barely fired.... like new.... well maintained.... never abused... don't want to sell, just need some cash... item.

mine is optical, i have owned it for 20+ years from my days as a safe tech, and the magnification can make things appear worse than they are on paper. i am still learning to live with that aspect.

if you are a serious or even semi-serious shooter/trader/builder it will pay for itself quickly, imho.

 

[jackson1]

Always wanted a Hawkeye bore scope, but the price held me back. After reading the reviews on the Lyman bore cam, I bought one. Works fine. Lead me to this ears up grades. Seven new rifle barrels. Evan with out the bore cam, I knew the round counts were getting up there and accuracy was deteriorating, so it was time to move on. For me the best thing about a bore cam is as a cleaning aid.

 

[dickn52]

Some Gunsmith Friends think an individual should be Licensed to be able to Purchase One

Hope it wasn't the gunsmith that f***** up two barrels for me.