Just wondering if anyone out there has seen a box of these yet? I'm curious to see a picture of one of these beside a 180 Hybrid, 183 SMK or even 175 ELDx for comparison. Hornady lists a very high G7 for them, and I'm curious as to whether the claim has a design based foundation or if it's pixie dust that lowers their drag.
Hornady 7mm 180 ELDm
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If I were to bet on the BC of the 180 eld-m, I'd say Hornady has it on the high side. I think it's fairly close but just hard to believe that it could be that much higher than the 180 berger vld. When a BC on a 180 /284 bullet hits nearly .8, it makes me wonder. Especially when Berger lists there 180 vld at .660 and that is a verified number.
The BC is Doppler tested like the rest of the ELD lines, which all were doubted but held true, so I wouldn't expect it to be lower unless the twist is slower. They do a good break down on BC at their site showing BC for 7.5 twist and 8.75 at three velocity bands.
http://www.hornady.com/BC
http://www.hornady.com/BC
Very true and I am running an 8 twist barrel. I'm just hoping the BC of that 180 is as impressive as it looks. I'm running an 8 in that barrel too.
Then it might be a little lower than the higher BC listed as that is set with a 7.5 twist at .816 but the 8.75 BC is .777 So I would guess, depending on velocity you will be in the middle of those but also depending on how far out you are shooting the velocity. The average of the velocity bands given for the 8.75 twist is .752 and for the 7.5 twist it is .803 so for longer range you will probably be about .775 for the BC. Still not bad for a 180.
Definitely impressive numbers
That's what everyone said about all the other bullets but they held true.
So far the 162 Amax out shoot every Hornady bullet yet in my particular gun. The 140 Amax as well in my 260. Hearing good things about all the eld bullets but the Amax bullet is superior in accuracy in mine. BC numbers are impressive in all the eld line of bullets for sure. Sierra has some good numbers in there TMK bullets as well. Very impressed with the 169 TMK in my 308.
180g Hybrid, 180g ELD-M, 183g SMK, 197g SMK
Kyreloader, how's the accuracy with the hornady eld vs the hybrid?
And what flavor of 7mm are you shooting?
If they are as accurate as the 180 hybrid it will be nice not having to trim and point and save some money on cost as well....
And what flavor of 7mm are you shooting?
If they are as accurate as the 180 hybrid it will be nice not having to trim and point and save some money on cost as well....
Thank you for the picture for comparison. At first glance, the claimed BC does seem optimistic. In the same frame, it looks like Sierra hit one that's headed out of the park with the 183. That is a good looking projectile that will stabilize in many current barrels. All of a sudden 180 Hybrids look like fodder.
I can't help but think that the 180 looks like a great hunting bullet- I've seen 100% performance success using old 6.5 Amax'es, and I think that that 180 looks like just the medicine to hit hard and be versatile to handle close and far. I think that the ELDx line went too wide on their poly tips.
I can't help but think that the 180 looks like a great hunting bullet- I've seen 100% performance success using old 6.5 Amax'es, and I think that that 180 looks like just the medicine to hit hard and be versatile to handle close and far. I think that the ELDx line went too wide on their poly tips.
I received my 180g ELD-Ms in the mail yesterday. Have only had time to grab one out of the box and take a picture comparing it to the others. I plan to shoot them in a .284 Win that I shoot for F-Open.
Only time will tell, but will be a tough road to hoe to knock the 180g Berger Hybrid off it's pedestal.
Got some of these from Midway finally and I am impressed so far. They shoot at least as well as the Berger 180 hybrids accuracy wise in my 284 with a much better BC. At 1k they should be worth a few points in the wind.
600 yd test today shot .5 moa higher with a 1.9" group which is pretty good for me. No sorting or pointing. We'll see how they do at a match next
600 yd test today shot .5 moa higher with a 1.9" group which is pretty good for me. No sorting or pointing. We'll see how they do at a match next
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What did you do load wise compared to your 180g Hybrid load? What about distance from lands, fine a sweet spot?
Thanks.
That was the great thing, the load is exactly the same. The seating depth is different but seems pretty forgiving like the Berger hybrid. The CBTO with a Hornady gauge is about .030 less (ymmv)
Rogmay
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Dskogman, what twist are you running?
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