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Does this exist? Varmint/elk switch barrel

ttfreestyle

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I am wanting to build a gun that can handle double duty. One action, one stock, one scope, two barrels, a good adjustable trigger is a must. Duties will be varmint(coyote,p dogs, 6mm only, 600ish yards range) 80 percent of the time and elk 20 percent(700ish yards and in with authority). This will be a carry gun so weight is a concern, 9 pounds or less with scope ,less is better. Can One gun do this without sacrificing performance on either end or is two the question? Thanks
 
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For the range that you specify on Elk, I think that a magnum would be the choice, which would be a better fit for a long action, particularly if a magazine is to be used. Since you did not allow for two bolts, and a magnum bolt face would not be suitable for a varmint cartridge, and for that job, you could single load, I suggest an action that has interchangeable bolt heads. There are a couple that I can think of. On the less expensive side, a Savage could do the job. For a larger budget, something like a Bighorn would be a suitable candidate. Being able to have different bolt heads will allow you pretty much anything that you want for calibers. The Bighorn actions are Remington clones that have built in recoil lugs, in the same position that they would be if they were a separate piece. They take Remington pattern triggers, so you can have a Jewell if that is what you want. There are lots of suitable stocks. For the volume of shooting that prairie dog shooting entails, you do not want to go with too large of a case, unless you want to spend a lot of time waiting for your barrel to cool, and barrel life is not a consideration. A fast twist 6BR should have the reach with longer bullets, and it should shoot lighter bullets as well. For elk, at the distance that you specify, to have the most confidence, something like a .338 Lapua with a muzzle brake would be the ticket. If you shorten the distance requirement something smaller would work just fine, but I think that for really long work, you need to start out with enough energy so that you will have enough when you get there. I have a friend who has hunted elk on a large private ranch for many years. He plans on long shots, and has used several rifles in different calibers. His latest rifle project was in . 338 Lapua, and it has done and excellent job for 600 yard shots. I do not like to see shooters use calibers that deliver marginal energy at long ranges for animals such as elk.
 
I agree with just getting two bolts and two barrels... then your choices are wide open. Not much $ in the long run for another bolt to do this with...

Problem your running into more is a short action use and a long action use... best to just build on the long action
 
I would ask you to analyze your initial percentages of 80% varmint and 20% elk (instead of thinking of it as 20 days varmint and 5 days elk...). If you go elk hunting once a year, you will shoot 1 or 2 shots in anger (that matter; unless you are actually trying to shoot one at 700 yards in which case you may get to send a few more downrange...) and a few more developing loads & sighting in (also how often are you going to actually go elk hunting? Every year, every other, etc?). PD hunting how many shots in a day times how many days and then add in coyotes. 99% of the shots fired that matter are going to be at varmints....that configuration is going to get a lot more bang...so for your bucks I would concentrate on that....
 
AH sounds like you need a good 7 mag and a Ruger American in 243 with a cheep scope on it. You could buy a Ruger American and cheep glass to shoot P dogs and yotes for the price of a Barrel...they shoot..well..
Switch barrel rifles are not that great..you will get tired of it fast. cool idea..but..
 
[QUOTE="FJIM,
Switch barrel rifles are not that great..you will get tired of it fast. cool idea..but..[/QUOTE]


I disagree... i do switch barrels with all my custom builds... its handy as muck with an F on the front.

At $3000-3500 a rifle, and $3500 a scope, it aint easy to build a whole gun for each caliber. Illdo the math.. thats $6500-$7k a rifle... EACH.. so switch barrels save a muck ton of money..
 
My opinion... Stay away from a barrel nut if you want a true switch barrel rig.

Having to remove action from stock AND removing scope just to swap barrels is not a true switch barrel setup.

To add to this , obviously this is going to be a repeater and will need to feed reliably... Staying with calibers that share a common case design will help IE: 25-06 and 280AI or 6x284 and 284Shehane.
Good luck.
 
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My opinion... Stay away from a barrel nut if you want a true switch barrel rig.

Having to remove action from stock AND removing scope just to swap barrels is not a true switch barrel setup.

To add to this , obviously this is going to be a repeater and will need to feed reliably... Staying with calibers that share a common case design will help IE: 25-06 and 280AI or 6x284 and 284Shehane.
Good luck.

All you need is an action wrench and barrel vice. 6-06 or 6 Rem and 280 or 30-06
 
A scope mounted on the action will likely not fire to the same point of impact as the other barrel. You need to mount sights to the barrel - especially a scope.
 
And I'm not gonna come around here and spout a negative opinion about shooting elks at 700ish yards. Just not gonna do it.;)

I like the "dual rifle" thing though. I'd probably just do the 243/308 combo, and forget about the 700 yard thing. I've chased around too many elk that were well shot at 200 yards. jd
 
A scope mounted on the action will likely not fire to the same point of impact as the other barrel. You need to mount sights to the barrel - especially a scope.

All of my scopes have adjustment knobs.... A day at the range and viola , you have drop charts for each barrel. You won't have it that easy with a barrel nut setup though.
As you will be fiddling around taking the action out of the stock along with removing the scope so you can utilize a wrench on the barrel nut trying to exact your previous headspace.

Shouldered barrel , spin off and spin on , spin turrets to that particular barrels cartridge and go shoot stuff lol.
 
I run this set-up on a stiller predator short action, with NF 5.5 x22 NXS. 6BR, Dasher in the summer for ground squirrels, p-dogs, steel shooting and 7 Saum in the fall for hunting season. Have 2 bolts so lots of options!

Lonnie
 
[QUOTE="FJIM,
Switch barrel rifles are not that great..you will get tired of it fast. cool idea..but..


I disagree... i do switch barrels with all my custom builds... its handy as muck with an F on the front.

At $3000-3500 a rifle, and $3500 a scope, it aint easy to build a whole gun for each caliber. Illdo the math.. thats $6500-$7k a rifle... EACH.. so switch barrels save a muck ton of money..[/QUOTE]

well I can't disagree with you. I have and have had several custom switch barrel rifles. to the place where I do
not like to change barrel's. I never used a nut. all custom and a few target with a few barrel's in same caliber.
I am just saying I have one now but have had several factory rifles as accurate as any custom. I have owned several
factory rifles capable of 1/2 MOA. more than accurate enough for hunting..Price of a barrel and chamber job. barrel 325.00+chambering +250.00 matt finish 50.00 so 625.00 for a barrel you could buy a inexpensive hunting rifle and cheep enough glass to get the job done for hunting.. that was my opinion or 2 cents. I realize not the purpose of this thread..But that was my point.. I know a famous coyote hunter who uses a old rem788 in 6mm for 30 years with a cheep 3-9 scope on it and has killed more yotes in that time than most could only emagine..I guess my point is a good hunting rifle does not have to be 7K.. In fact we were ground hog hunting one day and we had a hog at 560 yards that would just stick his head up but would never come out,we waited for some time and just would stick his head out..The boy hunting with me and my custom rifle with metalicus match ammo had a factory 700 sporter in 270 win..I know how he loads,,just stuffs them..he said I am going to try him..I said ok..he said you got him,i said yea..he shot and hit him right in the head jurked him out of the hole and laid him 20 feet into the field..I said well at least we don't have to walk over there..I could not believe it..I was guess ta mating his rifle and ammo accuracy in my mind as he was getting ready to shoot and felt it was not going to happen. I was shocked..I have also seen him pull off some amazing shots with a factory 22/250 also.
 

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