Ultimate coyote round.

[dkhunt14]

Hear, hear, well said guys! I'm also the type that fits into that type of coyote hunter category, mostly these days as a spot and stalk guy, but always looking for the better mouse trap. Always looking for the best way to get the bullet into a far off coyote's 6" vital zone in field conditions is the best of challenges/best of rewards IMO. This kinda' country below makes it difficult simply due to the sheer size of the ranches we hunt. Always looking for a better optic as well to try and see them as far out as possible--




6.5 WSM XP-100/140 A-Max at 2800/6.5-20 Leupy/Holland HUMR ART. This is my long-range coyote pistol, as big as i'll ever need for such an application. 400-some yd. spot and stalked coyote.

I like the Highlanders. I mounted my laser Rangefinder on one side and a Red Dot on the other. That way you can range what you are looking at. The other guys can look through your Red Dot and see where on the mountain you are looking and go back and put their Red Dot there and find the animal. Matt

 

[sscoyote]

That's a great idea!

 

[scope eye]

Here are a few other of my WSM "Coyote" Rigs 300, 7mm, 270, 6.5, 257, 6mm.
110gr sierra, 110gr Barnes, 110gr Vmax, 107gr Sierra, 85gr Nosler, 87gr Vmax.
No special dies needed for any of them, all off the shelf stuff.



Dean

 

[370bc]

Here are a few other of my WSM "Coyote" Rigs 300, 7mm, 270, 6.5, 257, 6mm.
110gr sierra, 110gr Barnes, 110gr Vmax, 107gr Sierra, 85gr Nosler, 87gr Vmax.
No special dies needed for any of them, all off the shelf stuff.



Dean

I reload for 338 win mag, 7mm rem mag, 300 win mag, all belted cases.
When I started to load for the 300WSM, It was heaven. Brass slid in & out of die, no prob. Finding a load/no prob. Didn't hardly even have to trim the brass. M70 super shadow feed like glass. On the other hand, the 7 mag & 2 300 win mags are a different story. I have to fight that brass tooth and nail.
The 6.5 & 6mm WSM's really look good. I was thinking of a 1-7 & 115 burgers for blasting Yotes. What would the velocity be? Would the bullet stay together? Very Interesting.

 

[scope eye]

You could send 115gr 3600+fps easy, so I would not go any lower than 9 twist and that would put you at 290.000rpm.
I have a 10 and a 12 twist and they stabilize a 107gr @ 4000+ fps no problem, which is 288.000 for the 10t and 240.000 for the 12t respectively.

Dean

 

[scope eye]

The 270, 7mm, and 300 are all pretty much standard stuff, the 6.5 lee makes a set $35.00 which work great. And for the 257 I use 25 WSSM dies for the neck and shoulder and 243 WSSM dies for the 6mm neck and shoulder, and when I want to do a full length size. I take the guts out of my 270 or 300 WSM and run it through those. easy as pie I call them Blue collar wildcats.

Dean

 

[sscoyote]

The 270, 7mm, and 300 are all pretty much standard stuff, the 6.5 lee makes a set $35.00 which work great. And for the 257 I use 25 WSSM dies for the neck and shoulder and 243 WSSM dies for the 6mm neck and shoulder, and when I want to do a full length size. I take the guts out of my 270 or 300 WSM and run it through those. easy as pie I call them Blue collar wildcats.

Dean

Go get 'em Dean. One of the coolest threads here in awhile sir!! Love to spot for you snipin' coyotes sometime.

 

[scope eye]

Actually I also like to spot and watch it happen, and let they other guy shoot. I love when I hear "that coyote is really far how much hold over do you think I should have" then I answer NONE then silence.LOL Sometimes when it is "really really" far with two really's then it is hold the cross hairs even with the spine that is they extent of my range finding.LOL

Dean

 

[370bc]

You could send 115gr 3600+fps easy, so I would not go any lower than 9 twist and that would put you at 290.000rpm.
I have a 10 and a 12 twist and they stabilize a 107gr @ 4000+ fps no problem, which is 288.000 for the 10t and 240.000 for the 12t respectively.

Dean

According to my knights flight, the 105 berger, w/200 yard zero would have 9.5'' of drop and 6.7'' of deflection at 10mph. That's mouthwatering numbers.

 

[scope eye]

This is my latest project can anyone guess. the one on the left that is.LOL


Dean

 

[dkhunt14]

What is the cartridge on the right with the bad bullet? Matt

 

[scope eye]

It is a 223 it is one of my mock up rounds.

Dean

 

[scope eye]

Here is my latest one a 416 Taylor it's not a wildcat it's also not a Common cartridge, the best part is it's a pretty low investment caliber. First off the dies cost $35.00 and the brass is necked up 300 or 338 Winmag which are abundant. So no hi cost or rare brass involved, you can also neck down 458 WinMag brass there is also 416 Taylor brass and Basic mag brass. Bullets are available from 300 to 500gr the barrel is a 30" 14 twist. I made that case in one pass from a 300 WinMag

Dean

 

[scope eye]

I am bringing this thread back to life, I wanted to know what everyone has been up to.

Dean

 

[370bc]

I am bringing this thread back to life, I wanted to know what everyone has been up to.

Dean

One of many of my favorite threads also.
I am in the process of deciding which of my bullets to use in my 243 win kimber with a 1-12 twist. Wind is always an issue. I have a accurate 88 Berger load that I use, I just have to load it as a single shot. Debating wether to decrease in the accuracy department and seat the bullets so they cycled through. A 70 grain TNT load groups well, I just haven't used them yet because of the BC deflection department.
There is no calling in my area. Just sit and wait for them to come in to me, which they do, most of the time. I use a chair and bog-pod tripod shooting sticks. And I need to practice my field shooting abilities.

 

[fredo]

Been killing a couple (called) coyotes with my 6x45AI peashooter. Such a joy to carry & shoot! Shoots like a dang rainbow compared to some of my other hotrod goodies, but its a solid 225yd hold on fur killer. In NY, that's sufficient for calling predators. Even got a deer load worked up for this 6x45AI & have high hopes for it!

No change on my ideal "coyote calling" rifle preference, though. Given how we hunt (calling, covering lots of ground & making lots of stands in a day) the .22-243AI allows incredible ballistic & terminal performance that can only be matched by stepping up to a much larger case to push a heavier bullet fast enough to even get close...

To reiterate, the thing that makes a .224 hotrod so special, is when shot from a 'carry weight varmint' rifle (10-12 lbs), recoil is near nothing. That allows for spotting hits/misses thru the scope & making faster followup shots on multiples. The flat shooting ability is very tough to beat without paying the price in recoil & muzzle blast. And the terminal performance is exceptional for putting a 20-50lb. canine in the dirt with authority.

Again, my opinion is based on a "coyote calling rifle" that will be carried for miles, back & forth on stand & shot several times on a good day in the field.

For those who prefer to spot/stalk/snipe coyotes as if they're just shooting giant prairie dogs, there are all matter of (larger) badazz wildcat combos to play with. As evidenced above! Even so, I'd still rate the .22-243AI VERY high on the list, regardless of the platform & manner of take, simply for the performance it allows & the sheer pleasure it is to shoot.

That all said, I can certainly appreciate the 'cool factor' of big boomer wildcats. Reckon just about any rifle junky can find something to enjoy about this thread!!!

Have fun & good shooting!

 

[scope eye]

What I have done is bring both rounds long and short, I have one long one in the chamber and short ones in the mag, in case I need a follow up shot, there wasn't enough difference in the POI to need to change my POA. and after sending a few just reload the mag and fill the chamber with the long one. My long ones are usually nickle plated or I color the brass with a Sharpie.

Dean

PS: I have a 22-243 Middlestead and that thing is a mini Sidewinder.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Still loving 55 noslers at 4k in the dasher with zero freebore. Explosive...

 

[Phil]

I`m S L O W L Y putting together a Borden Alpine .22-243AI / 6.5 SAUM for a calling gun.

That should cover just about anything I`d use it for.....

Lovin` this topic and conversation, it could only be made better if the pictures re-appeared in the thread....


Phil.

 

[scope eye]

pics posted