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Wipe Out

I started using Wipe Out when it was 1st introduced and I TRULEY believe "It is the BEST thing since CAN BEER" Somewhere along the line I switched to Liquid Wipe-Out (Patch- Out) I have not used the WO Accelerator with either as I use Bore Tech Eliminator when I clean at the range.

My question : Do you use Patch Out with the Acellerator -
or just when you use Wipe out, do you use both at the range -
or just for long term cleaning,overnite ?

Thanx,
Jim
 
Jim,

From what I know of the intended use of the accelerator, is to use with either WipeOut or PatchOut. I use it with both and am very happy with the products..

I generally dont clean at the range, prefer to wait till days shooting is over.. Soon as I get home, in goes a quick couple of PatchOut to get the loose fouling out, followed by a patch of Accelerator, then a blast of WipeOut to sit over night. Time for a bowl of ice cream. Picking it up the next day.. Great stuff it is, works well for me... ;)

If I do clean at the range, different regimen with different stuff.
 
Do you guys own a bore scope ? How did you monitor the effectiveness of this product ?
 
I use Wipe Out after the last round fired at the range while the barrel is still hot; and let it sit overnight. Great product.
 
I typically push a few patches of Patch Out through the bore white still warm. Once I get most of the loose fowling out I will apply the accelerator and patchout to the bore with a nylon rush. I will let this sit in the bore (15 - 20 minutes) while I start packing up my equipment then put one dry patch through. When I get home I fill the bore with Wipe Out and let it soak overnight. I also believe it is a great product but depending on the condition of your bore you will still need to put a brush to it. I have checked my bore with a bore scope after a clean patch and still found copper and powder fowling. It would be nice to use and trust just one product but IMHO it just isn't possible.
 
TimP said:
It would be nice to use and trust just one product but IMHO it just isn't possible.

Wise words and I agree, there is no "one perfect" solution. Wipeout/Patch out do a great job, but Iosso & MT Copper Killer will always have a place in my cleaning box.... ;)

Rod
 
As posted by LCazador, unless you have a borescope, or access to one, you really don't know the condition of the bore, or how effectively the cleaner is working. Claims made by the maker are, in many case's nothing more than advertising hype.

I've seen the muzzle area free of any trace of copper, but when I inspect the entire length with my Hawkeye, I've seen copper, sometimes just a trace and sometimes a lot, and it can be anywhere in the bore,from the throat to the muzzle.

More importantly though is the effectivness of any cleaner, liquid or paste, on the removal of carbon fouling, the toughest type of fowling to remove.

I've done many before and after cleaning tests with different products, some are very good, some work with more effort, and a few are just plain worthless. Without the ability of an up close inspection, you're only guessing.
 
I've been using Wipe Out & Patch Out w/ Accelerator for a number of years. It's good stuff, but with most barrels it needs more than one appilcation. I shoot coated bullets and a day's match with two yardages will take 100-125 bullets. I don't clean until the next day. With custom barrels, one application is usually enough. With Factory Savage , Remington etc. it frequently takes 4-5 applications to get all the copper. Lately I've used Sea Foam to get the first layer of carbon before using PO and that makes things move a little faster. After three or four matches I do a thorough cleaning with FP10 & Rem Clean. This get everything I have missed previously and polishes up the throat. Yes, I use a bore scope.
Rick
 
I use Wipe Out and Patch Out, and use the Accelerator with both sometimes. I know it works in my barrels because I use a Hawkeye bore scope. I did not believe the claims until I bought some and tried it, now in my match rifles I don't use anything else unless I have a stubborn bit of carbon.

Eric
 
Eric: Would you list your procedures using WipeOut, PatchOut & the Accelerator?

I've been using JB bore paste, yes it's very effective, but a lot of time consuming work. If I can find something quicker to use I'm open to giving it a try.

Did try WipeOut alone, several years ago, followed the directions & it did nothing to remove carbon, my biggest cleaning problem. Thanks. ;)
 
I use it on everything and swear by it. As for carbon, I've not found anything that works without some agitation from a brush.
My regimen for my match guns is to go after the carbon first with GM TEC, CarbOut, or of late, Ed's Red. It seems to work well too, for carbon. I brush 4-5 stokes and let the carbon cleaner soak for a few minutes. Then patch it dry and apply the Accelerator followed by short stroking the Patch Out into the bore. Let set for a few minutes and repeat the Patch Out and accelerator. Let is set for anywhere between 20 minutes and overnight, depending on what I feel like, and how the patches look.
This is usually all it takes to get it very clean as verified always by my bore scope.
The stuff works! It'll soften carbon somewhat but isn't the best on carbon, so I attack the carbon first so as to expose the copper to the patch out. I highly recommend PatchOut products. It's the closest thing to a chemically cleaned barrel I've seen. --Mike Ezell
 
So what I'm hearing from competition shooters, I will still need to brush the carbon out with another product. My tried and true regimen with Butches BS ,bronze brush, and JB takes all of 10 minutes without the foam mess that Murphy says will somehow find it's way into the trigger during a match, or into the bedding . Both my ppc and 30BR only need one fouler using this method. If I strip the bore squeaky clean and need more foulers......what have I accomplished?
 
LHSMITH said:
So what I'm hearing from competition shooters, I will still need to brush the carbon out with another product. My tried and true regimen with Butches BS ,bronze brush, and JB takes all of 10 minutes without the foam mess that Murphy says will somehow find it's way into the trigger during a match, or into the bedding . Both my ppc and 30BR only need one fouler using this method. If I strip the bore squeaky clean and need more foulers......what have I accomplished?


The foam can be messy and gets wasted by running out of the muzzle and onto the floor. The patch out is no more messy than anything else and is less mess than most...also doesn't stink as bad.
As for your process...if it's working well for you, and you're happy, there's no reason you should change. But if you haven't tried it, I think you're missing out on a very good product. I prefer not to use abrasive cleaners any more than absolutely necessary. I haven't found it necessary in a long time. I also find the abrasive cleaners more trouble to use, overall. FWIW.--Mike
 
I start my cleaning with 4-5 soaking wet patches with pretty much any decent solvent I have on hand -- MT X-Treme, Butches, Shooters Choice, Patch-Out. I use this to get the black "soot" out of the barrel. Follow this with one application of Wipe-Out foam. Let it sit 30 minutes or so, letting the bubbles dissipate. Then I give it another blast with wipe-out, filling the bore. I remove with dry patches after 4 hours or so.

No problem with carbon. Gun shoots great. Very little throat wear. Haven't needed bronze brushes at all with my better barrels.

I'm a big fan of Wipe-out. I have seen some barrels which seem to require a more aggressive cleaning regimen, with periodic brushing. There's no single solution for all barrels. But my PacNor 3-grooves are happy with wet patches followed by Wipe-Out with no brushing at all.

Here's how to avoid foam messiness:

1. Place boreguide in action.
2. Place towel over stock comb.
3. Apply Wipe-Out into muzzle, use short puffs of Wipe-Out until about 1" of white foam exits the bore guide. Clean that up with a paper towel.
4. Re-apply after 30 minutes.
5. Dry-patch out after 4 hours.

No muss, no fuss, no mess, no spills. No migration into action or bedding.
 
I leave you with one more tip on Wipe-Out. If you get it on your hands, any at all, it is a very good idea to wash them immediately after you are finished applying it, with warm soapy water. It is not that it will hurt your hands, but even if you thoroughly wipe your hands, there will be a residue, which is enough to irritate the edges of your eyelids should you absentmindedly rub your eyes. This is not what I would call a severe danger, but in warm weather I have the habit of rubbing away the sweat around my eyes with my open palm. Once when I had done this after wiping some Wipe-Out off of my hands, I started to notice a slight irritation of the edges of my eyelids, which was remedied by flushing with water. Since then, I wash my hands immediately after handling any of the material, and the problem has not reoccurred. I should add that I like and use the product.
 
Ive been using Wipe Out since the first of the year. It does a great job for me is all I know. Is it the ultimate bore cleaner?? Beats me but I dont care!! It just has to satisfy me is all.
 
If you haven't tried the new applicator spout do so. It has a rubber tip that fits chambers .17 and up. Apply it from the breach end and it seals the chamber really well very little backup. I typically rubber band a small plastic bag over the muzzle to contain the overflow. Fill the bore let it soak push a patch through with the bag in place. If the patch is still showing fowling reapply the wipeout. Once I get a clean patch I inspect with my borescope. If it is clean great if not a patch of 99% IPA goes down the barrel followed with Butches BS with a bronze brush or JB depending on what I see. Works for me.
 
K22 said:
"Wipe Out" - Wasn't that a surfing song from the 60's :)

Sorry, just couldn't resist it.
It was an instrumental , remember the only words in the song were , "hee, hee , hee , Wipeout !!" . I couldn't resist that either ;D !
 
BoydAllen said:
I leave you with one more tip on Wipe-Out. If you get it on your hands, any at all, it is a very good idea to wash them immediately after you are finished applying it, with warm soapy water. It is not that it will hurt your hands, but even if you thoroughly wipe your hands, there will be a residue, which is enough to irritate the edges of your eyelids should you absentmindedly rub your eyes. This is not what I would call a severe danger, but in warm weather I have the habit of rubbing away the sweat around my eyes with my open palm. Once when I had done this after wiping some Wipe-Out off of my hands, I started to notice a slight irritation of the edges of my eyelids, which was remedied by flushing with water. Since then, I wash my hands immediately after handling any of the material, and the problem has not reoccurred. I should add that I like and use the product.
Not to say anything about the amount of chemical that is immediately absorbed through the skin before you and after you wash your hands . I use the blue nitrile disposable gloves when cleaning .
 

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