Wilson in-line seater alternative? Neil Jones?

[DngBat7]

So right now I use a Wilson in-line seater for an arbor press. I would like to continue to seat with an arbor press so threaded dies are out of the question. I want something that is a step up from the Wilson, Something that fits my brass better. Is the Neil Jones the best option? Since it has the interchangeable bushings? I don’t own the reamer for my rifle. So what are my choices? Thanks ahead of time.

 

[David Christian]

Why need anything better than a Wilson? What is not working?

 

[mikeeg02]

If you want something better than a universal Wilson, get a competent machinist of have the same gun Smith who did your chamber make his own or run your reamer in + .050" a Wilson micrometer top blank. Can't really get any better than that. As long as they properly indicate the blanks. Turns out they aren't perfectly concentric.

 

[WillyTP]

If you want to spend the money?
http://www.xxicsi.com/calibrated-bullet-seater.html

 

[rardoin]

I do what Mike suggested....have a Wilson blank cut with the chamber reamer.

 

[DngBat7]

Why need anything better than a Wilson? What is not working?

It works. Just was wondering if there was something that may provide a little more accuracy

 

[JFrank]

Trigger Time pops into my head

 

[David Christian]

@X-47B are you referring to accuracy on target, or do you find you are getting runout just from your seating process?

 

[mikeeg02]

If you want to spend the money?
http://www.xxicsi.com/calibrated-bullet-seater.html

I bought one of these used. I wouldnt not buy another personally. I really like the seater stem top, but I did not care for the rest of the dies construction, certainly not for the price they command. Since I bought it used, I only paid ~$100, but I wouldnt buy another. Maybe mine was an old design.

EDIT: I do realize this will likely ruffle some feathers, but that was just my experience. I had called and left a voicemail to John, and never did hear back from him either.

 

[Steve Blair]

If you want to spend the money?
http://www.xxicsi.com/calibrated-bullet-seater.html

John makes excellent products. Or, if you really have some cash to throw around, Warner Tool also makes custom dies. I have two of their sizing dies and they are superb.
https://www.warner-tool.com/reloading-dies/

 

[KWeigel]

You will never find a nicer seater than the 21 century!

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Im a fan of the threaded seater. I know this drives most reloaders to the curb, but i know a lot of top br competitors that use them

 

[DngBat7]

Im a fan of the threaded seater. I know this drives most reloaders to the curb, but i know a lot of top br competitors that use them

I completely understand. But I do like using my 21st hydro press. It’s made a big difference in my reloading.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I completely understand. But I do like using my 21st hydro press. It’s made a big difference in my reloading.

I do have one and use it on some of my dies. for calibers ill be shooting forever I make a threaded die from a newlon blank and with a fine custom press such as a JJ or Bruno I can feel very small differences <5 and anything less than that gets lost in the noise. only issue is you really need 2 presses when you do this instead of moving dies to be efficient at the range.

 

[Al Lu]

If you make a threaded die from a newlon blank, say 6.5x47L, does it means that I can use that die for all 6.5x47L rounds for seating going forward even using different rifle?

 

[BenPerfected]

Why need anything better than a Wilson? What is not working?

On most of my numerous Wilson Seater Dies I bought from Sinclair, the dies can’t be accurately adjusted. When I finally get a seater set, I lock it place and and never adjust it....there must be a better way.
Ben

 

[DngBat7]

On most of my numerous Wilson Seater Dies I bought from Sinclair, the dies can’t be accurately adjusted. When I finally get a seater set, I lock it place and and never adjust it....there must be a better way.
Ben

They do help on my Wilson seater. I have the same issue. I set my Wilson a little low and adjust with these. They work well

https://www.sinclairintl.com/reload...grades/reloading-die-shim-kits-prod33711.aspx

 

[DngBat7]

Thank

I do have one and use it on some of my dies. for calibers ill be shooting forever I make a threaded die from a newlon blank and with a fine custom press such as a JJ or Bruno I can feel very small differences <5 and anything less than that gets lost in the noise. only issue is you really need 2 presses when you do this instead of moving dies to be efficient at the range.

Thanks Dusty, What is the clearance in those presses? Is there enough height for a loaded 308 length round?

 

[BenPerfected]

They do help on my Wilson seater. I have the same issue. I set my Wilson a little low and adjust with these. They work well

https://www.sinclairintl.com/reload...grades/reloading-die-shim-kits-prod33711.aspx

For me, these shims are going to be a game changer....bought 2 packages!....where have I been?

 

[DngBat7]

For me, these shims are going to be a game changer....bought 2 packages!....where have I been?

I think they start at .003. So I set my die back .002. I can adjust .001 in any direction. They to work well.