now that i have your attention...im new...and i'm sure issues like this have been exhaustively discussed but i'm going to ask anyway. Is it bad practice to use speer load data for hornady bullets, or any manual for that matter with projectiles from a different manufacturer, obviously im matching bullet for bullet in that im using 168gr hornady match BTHP with load data for the same spec'd speer bullet (BTHP 168 match) FYI im loading once fired brass and pumping it into a tikka 308 and intend to load as well for my tikka 223(both lites)i intend to get more manuals for but for now the only manual that i have is a speer. worse case is what?? I'm just getting into this loading thing again after a couple years and feel like im having to relearn a lot all over again. cheers
Will this blow up in my face or no?
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all of them are guides, NOT LAWS.
as long as you WORK UP your load and do not start at the top end, it should be no issue. make sure your planned oal actually fits before loading them
as long as you WORK UP your load and do not start at the top end, it should be no issue. make sure your planned oal actually fits before loading them
Just start 10% below max charges for the bullet weight and work up carefully watching for excessive pressure signs and you will be fine.
Forum Boss: Yes and no. I suggest starting 15% low. The reasons? Bullet bearing surfaces vary greatly. You can't extrapolate from one 150gr bullet to another. Also, the books will generally give a COAL, but NOT EVERYONE has the same throat on their barrel. Likewise brass may have different internal capacity, and some barrels are tighter than others.
If I saw a 60gr max load on a big case, listed with a bullet I can't inspect, and an unknown throat length, and brass I've never tried, I would be very conservative.
Forum Boss: Yes and no. I suggest starting 15% low. The reasons? Bullet bearing surfaces vary greatly. You can't extrapolate from one 150gr bullet to another. Also, the books will generally give a COAL, but NOT EVERYONE has the same throat on their barrel. Likewise brass may have different internal capacity, and some barrels are tighter than others.
If I saw a 60gr max load on a big case, listed with a bullet I can't inspect, and an unknown throat length, and brass I've never tried, I would be very conservative.
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thank you pilot, cheers
one more thing, i have varget, imr 3031 and imr 4064. any advice on decent loads for 308 with these powders? i know every rifle is different but im just curious if some of you have had decent success with any of this boom boom dust.
Man, not to be negative!
That’s a bad way to start a title for a thread in the reloading forum. Nobody wants to touch that question with a ten foot pole!
That’s a bad way to start a title for a thread in the reloading forum. Nobody wants to touch that question with a ten foot pole!
Riesel
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In my opinion all three of those powders you listed are good to go with the IMR 4064 leading and the Varget next. A hogdon powder Google search will get you a vast amount of reloading info including those powders listed. I didn't look, but their 168 grain bullet is likely a Hornady as they don't list all that many Speers. Hope this helps
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Fast14riot
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Also, you can find load data for many bullet manufacturers on line. I cross reference different manufacturers data all the time. Hogdgon data online is another resource, Nosler, Hornady as well. Sometimes a quick call or email to the bullet manufacturer will give you some data, as well.
Well, a lot depends on your barrel configuration the depth of your seating in the case. If you're seating at SAAMI spec for a COAL of 2.800 and want to try a somewhat mild loads (though they gave me some good results a couple years back), you might try one of these loads to get started:
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Lone Hunter
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COAL does not mean case head to bullet tip?? if by case head you DONT mean the base of the bullet then what is it? base of bullet to bullet tip = COAL ??, and i have been doing a ton of reading/research... on most if not all of the terminology. I enjoy educating myself on topics of interest before i get involved in something that could potentially be dangerous. Thanks for your reply
FORUM Boss: PWC is wrong. COAL IS base of brass case to forward end of bullet.
His statements are potentially dangerous so he has been banned from the site forever.
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thanks for the info, assuming these are 100yd groups? pretty impressive.... 105'F though? dont get up here in southern mb. canada.
sorry mcgraw, wasnt trying to scare anyone. just trying to get some attention. cheers
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