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Load data discrepancy “New Reloader”

Something else you can do is to buy one box of commercial ammunition loaded with the 150 SST bullet. Hornday makes this round, there may be other brands also:


Note that this is not the "Superformance" version, which I would avoid for the purpose I am about to suggest because of its markedly higher velocity/pressure. What you can do is chronograph the commercial 150 SST ammo in your rifle, and get a feel for how well it shoots at the same time. If you like the way it performs, reproducing the velocity of the factory load with Varget will probably get you close. Then you can tweek the charge weight and seating depth and probably make your reloads a bit better than the commercial stuff.

Another aspect of having some of the commercial 150 SST ammunition [non-Superformance version] is that it is not likely to generate excessive pressure. Thus, you can gain some peace of mind as to how much velocity you can generate with your handloads without going grossly over MAX pressure. To be clear, this is not written in stone...different powders can produce different pressures to generate the same velocity, and we have no good way of knowing how the powder used to load the commercial 150 SST rounds compares to Varget. Nonetheless, it is probably a fairly safe assumption in this case.

An alternative to this approach is simply to try a few different types of commercial ammunition to find one that provides acceptable results, then use the same bullet and a similar powder to re-create a load for your setup. It's somewhat opposite of what a handloader is normally attempting to do, which is generate a solid load from scratch with specific chosen components. However, reproducing a commercial load you know shoots well is a simple way to gain more practical reloading experience, and there is nothing wrong with reverse-engineering a commercial load that shoots well.
 
I’m a brand new reloader. Last week I reloaded some 308 following the hornady handbook. I did everything by the book, double/triple checked everything. My 223 reloads shot fantastic the 308 not so much.
I got a Speer manual between now and then and also found the hodgden website that list load data.
In the 308 I started with a light load and it’s not even considered a minimum load in the Speer or hodgden data. There mid to higher pressure loads are listed as unsafe in the hornady manual. Just thought this was a bit odd and if this is a normal finding? Now I’m considering getting the Lyman manual to compare.
I’m using Varget powder with 150 gr hornady SST bullet.
Thanks
You have received much good advice regarding powder discrepancies from one manual to the next and what to look for re:pressure signs. Case volume, chamber/throat dimensions, and seating depth play into that. As you have had some satisfactory results with 223 and seem conscientious, let’s consider a principle source of error . Several mention mediocre accuracy with the SST which matches my experience, thus a different bullet, which your barrel “likes”, is warranted. The Berger 155.5 typically gives outstanding results, as does the 155 Scenar and the 155 Sierra #2156, if your use-case is “target”. Testing your system with some known good factory ammo has been suggested and is sound. Fed GM Match 168 or 175 gr is a good starting place. Varget covers a wide spectrum in 308 so stick with it. There is a large body of knowledge here, covering general sweet spots for various projectiles using varget in various cases, which nevertheless require careful approach. Your method of working up a load requires incremental powder charges, but what increments ? 0.2 to 0.3 grain increments are appropriate for 308. You might find googling “Creighton Audette Ladder Test” to be interesting.
 
I've learned to start in the middle and work up. Why spend time & resources on the minimums.
I don't like to load past the mid range loads either. Fastest/ biggest charge isn't my goal..... Accuracy is.

When I started handloading nigh on 40 years ago, Hodgdon only quoted maximum loads with an instruction to reduce them by 6% to get a starting level, except for H110 in magnum revolver cartridges, where the advice changed to 2%. Over the years, I've found that a 5-6% reduction in high-pressure rifle cartridges is usually about right, 10% at the most. For whatever reason, starting loads of double-figure percentage reductions have become common, IMO Hornady being the worst offender.

As far as increments go, Sierra used to recommend the nearest 10th grain to 1% of the maximum which again is very good advice.
 
Are we still using loading manuals these days? All you should need is a low starting point and increase until you see pressure or until you achieve desired accuracy. I don’t see a need for multiple loading manuals. The powder manufacturer’s website will tell you all you want to know. From there learn what to look for in your brass and on the target from reading or from an experienced mentor.
 
I’m a brand new reloader. Last week I reloaded some 308 following the hornady handbook. I did everything by the book, double/triple checked everything. My 223 reloads shot fantastic the 308 not so much.
I got a Speer manual between now and then and also found the hodgden website that list load data.
In the 308 I started with a light load and it’s not even considered a minimum load in the Speer or hodgden data. There mid to higher pressure loads are listed as unsafe in the hornady manual. Just thought this was a bit odd and if this is a normal finding? Now I’m considering getting the Lyman manual to compare.
I’m using Varget powder with 150 gr hornady SST bullet.
Thanks
I have the Lyman, Berger and Sierra manual. I like the Berger and Sierra the best. The Berger is a bound binding book that won't fall apart like the Sierra. The Sierra is a 3 ring note book. You would need to lick and apply about 900 reinforcement rings to the the Sierra manual so it wouldn't fall apart. The manuals are just a guide and not perfect numbers. Make sure you know all the signs of over pressure to keep you safe. If a load is way to hot it doesn't necessarily mean you will blow up the rifle. The rifles are proof tested way over the recommended operating pressure. To many people I see on this website are always trying to get the most speed they can without damaging the cases. Go for decent fps and small groups. The bullet makers sometimes add new info to reloading data on their website. They may reprint the manual every ten years?

The many powder and bullet manufacturers give free reloading data on their websites. Check out the websites for your calibers.
 

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