Wildcat ?s

[deadduck357]

They cut away bolt face and install a cup that is silver soldered in. Then they drill a new hole for firing pin that is tighter. GRETAN specializes in it with fast turnaround. Matt

Oh goodness. Would trying a different primer be first option before going that route?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Oh goodness. Would trying a different primer be first option before going that route?

first option would be to post a picture and let us see if its even an issue. I'd be willing to bet you dont have a problem

 

[dkhunt14]

Oh goodness. Would trying a different primer be first option before going that route?

Like Dusty says a pic would help. Lots of guys get their bolts bushed. Especially Remington. Matt

 

[Dgd6mm]

I heard over the weekend that Gre-Tan is 5- 6 weeks right now for bushing bolts.

 

[dkhunt14]

I heard over the weekend that Gre-Tan is 5- 6 weeks right now for bushing bolts.

Like I said he does a bunch of them. One of his specialties. Matt

 

[Hengehold]

I'm gonna have my gunsmith measure chamber and gonna check the reamer print.
We fired 3 proof loads through it after he chambered it.

Yeah, I should have asked y'all before trimming. So with new cases (unfired) you say they will get shorter, is there any harm firing them if trimmed .010 short of full case length?

Yes I noticed the lengthening after forming and FL dies.

Well the questions are because I'm new to this and know the best people to ask are y'all.

Should I expect less case growth with a 30° shoulder versus a 20°?

I really appreciate y'alls knowledge.

I am not sure why I have been seeing some seemingly rude comments in reply to your question. That is not what we do here.

I have trimmed my cases another .005 or so shorter than the textbook trim to length from time to time. I do it because I am lazy and don’t want to trim cases as often.

If you trim the case too short one problem you may encounter is a carbon ring that can develope in the neck of your chamber. If a carbon ring occurs you may experience excessive pressure signs. Cleaning the chamber/neck area well after each use can mitigate the risk of a carbon ring occurring.

If you want to measure your neck length in your rifle then you can use a gauge that is available through Sinclair/Brownells. Give them a call and tell them what you want to measure. They will tell you if they still carry a tool for that job.

Good luck!

-Trevor

 

[Hengehold]

https://www.sinclairintl.com/reload...s/sinclair-chamber-length-gage-prod32925.aspx

........ for whatever calibre (as in bore size, not cartridge form) your wildcat is in. You need to sacrifice one case by trimming it down by a tenth of an inch or so.

This is the tool I was referring to.

 

[fguffey]

Yeah, I should have asked y'all before trimming. So with new cases (unfired) you say they will get shorter, is there any harm firing them if trimmed .010 short of full case length?

The case will get shorter? My cases do not have head space; from beginning to end when forming and firing I have cases that shorten .045" from the end of the neck to the case head. For me that is not a problem because I understand why. AND! If the firing pin drove the case forward until the shoulder of the case collided with the shoulder of the chamber we all know the case would have suffered case head separation.

F. Guffey

 

[dkhunt14]

The case will get shorter? My cases do not have head space; from beginning to end when forming and firing I have cases that shorten .045" from the end of the neck to the case head. For me that is not a problem because I understand why. AND! If the firing pin drove the case forward until the shoulder of the case collided with the shoulder of the chamber we all know the case would have suffered case head separation.

F. Guffey

Which is caused by excessive HEADSPACE. Matt

 

[deadduck357]

first option would be to post a picture and let us see if its even an issue. I'd be willing to bet you dont have a problem

I was thinking about doing just that then realized the head stamp. Some more testing and will post it. Coming along GREAT! It's far exceeding our wildest expectations.

 

[deadduck357]

Like Dusty says a pic would help. Lots of guys get their bolts bushed. Especially Remington. Matt

Yes, soon.

 

[deadduck357]

Guys I can't just stop right now and send my bolt off for 6 weeks. Testing very often.

For now we're gonna have to find a tougher primer.

 

[deadduck357]

I am not sure why I have been seeing some seemingly rude comments in reply to your question. That is not what we do here.

I have trimmed my cases another .005 or so shorter than the textbook trim to length from time to time. I do it because I am lazy and don’t want to trim cases as often.

If you trim the case too short one problem you may encounter is a carbon ring that can develope in the neck of your chamber. If a carbon ring occurs you may experience excessive pressure signs. Cleaning the chamber/neck area well after each use can mitigate the risk of a carbon ring occurring.

If you want to measure your neck length in your rifle then you can use a gauge that is available through Sinclair/Brownells. Give them a call and tell them what you want to measure. They will tell you if they still carry a tool for that job.

Good luck!

-Trevor

With y'alls and reamer mfr recommendations we are cleaning with ISSOS and inspecting with bore scope. Keeping clean. Cases are starting to lengthen some, so no worries anymore.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Take a primer out and post a pic. If its not blowing a hole in them keep going and dont worry about it

 

[deadduck357]

Take a primer out and post a pic. If its not blowing a hole in them keep going and dont worry about it

Will do when I'm back at the shop.

It's getting pretty aggressive. Can feel a pronounced peak all the way around it.

Are CCI primers tougher than Tula?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

If its flowing around the pin they are all going to do it. Try a magnum primer for the best bet

 

[deadduck357]

If its flowing around the pin they are all going to do it. Try a magnum primer for the best bet

Magnums tougher/thicker?

 

[dellet]

This might be a helpful read for you and includes primer dimensions for most american rifle primers.
http://www.jamescalhoon.com/primers_and_pressure.php

Finding a tougher primer, so you can load more powder, with an unknown cartridge is probably a good time to re-evaluate the project, tools available and experience level of the R&D department.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Dusty I have read this post out of curiosity of when the op is going to divulge what the devil he is working on is this some government secret what goes here This is almost as good as the funny papers.

I dont get it either. Theres not a case out there from 14cal wildcats all the way up to a vulcan that hasnt been done and i got a huge cabinet of reamers off of every parent case you can buy- every shoulder angle and body taper and neck length you could dream up- aint nothin new thats for sure! Im even working on a REAL 22nosler not that shrunk down one they came up with

 

[deadduck357]

This might be a helpful read for you and includes primer dimensions for most american rifle primers.
http://www.jamescalhoon.com/primers_and_pressure.php

Finding a tougher primer, so you can load more powder, with an unknown cartridge is probably a good time to re-evaluate the project, tools available and experience level of the R&D department.

Will read it, thanks. More knowledge the better.

Got to start somewhere, right? So far the testing has much exceeded my predictions. Gunsmith working with me is stunned. Talked with reamer mfr about tests and he's excited. We're trying to find max limits, haven't found yet. Gunsmith thinks we can go more with better primers. We'll see.