Why would anyone put a 28" barrel on a 6ppc bench rifle

[Markhor]

I saw a 6PPC bench rifle with a 28" barrel. I don't know the twist rate etc. My question is that is their a practical need or advantage for a 6ppc bench rifle to have a long barrel? Do folks shoot these in 600yard matches?

Thanks,
Ed

 

[fdshuster]

If there is enough barrel shank diameter to take the threads, it can be set-back numerous times, all the way to approx. 20". A heavy varmint contour, straight taper would be required, but if weight is a restriction, not a good idea. And no, I've never seen the 6ppc being used at the longer distances in our local BR match's. The majority of us use them for 300 yard maximum.

 

[artbosco]

I saw a 6PPC bench rifle with a 28" barrel. My question is that is there a practical need or advantage for a 6ppc bench rifle to have a long barrel?

Ed:

Most 6PPC "B"enchrest guns that are shot in short-range competition, 100 to 200 yards, usually have barrels in the 20" to 22" range. Weight restrictions for Sporter, Light Varmint, and Heavy Varmint classes, along with the heavier scopes being used today [March, for instance], also tend to limited the length.

You only need a barrel long enough to stabilize the bullet's flight, and NBRSA/IBS weight restrictions can limited the choice of barrel length along with all the other components [butt plate/recoil pad, stock, trigger/trigger housing, action/bolt, pillars/glue, tuner, scope rings, etc.] being used.

 

[CanusLatransSnpr]

I may be wrong but, if I had to guess, this was someone's open class gun or varminter? The 6ppc isn't known for excessive speed so with the extra barrel length, extra fps. Just a thought!

Mike

 

[mikecr]

The only 'gain' in it would be a small extension of distance, with a slower powder, behind a heavier bullet. But it would come at some cost in accuracy that a normal 6ppc produces.

 

[WyleWD]

And no, I've never seen the 6ppc being used at the longer distances in our local BR match's. The majority of us use them for 300 yard maximum.

Oh no. They can be VERY effective at 400yds with 68-74gr match bullets. ;D ;D

My factory 6ppc rifle is approx. 26" as well as a couple other that I know of and they have shown some very impressive scores at 400yds and beyond. Also, know a fella that shot one at 800yds with some good results. So, IMHO, the 28" barrel may have some merit in the hands of a good reloader and shooter. Beyond 400yds is more than MY capability with the round, but there are many shooters I'm sure that can drive it through conditions and score well with it. WD

 

[fdshuster]

WD: Bring it to our local 500 meter ( 547 yards) benchrest varmint match's, fired on a range that has a reputation for some really bad winds & let's see what it does.

If you have access to the October-December 2011 issue of "Varmint Hunter" magazine, check out results of a nearby 1,3 & 400 yard BR Match, shown on page 187.

A total of 64 rifles in the match, one of which was a 6ppc, that placed 24 th. Pay particular attention to the 400 yard score total.

Top 3 wins were with 6BR's.

 

[expiper]

They can be VERY effective at 400yds with 68-74gr match bullets. (quote--
WD)

yes sir WD I agree...and with 8 twist and big bullets they anint much different than the BR's (which I am very fond of...hahha)///// and I bet WD culd hold his own with just about any crowd....the wind blows every place we go...I have seen several ppc bbls that were 26 and even 28...the only reason sooo many are 21-1/2 etc is that is what it takes to make wt. in the 10-1/2 lb class....nobody ever notices that most of the ppc rail guns "aint" 22".....if you can use the length by all means do so.....you hear that a certain vel. is the "node"....I think it is a certain pressure associated with that particular bbl length and xx.x grns of powder....if you make the bbl longer the breech pressure is the same but the vel. goes up ....some of the best short range guys use a big bbl in HV....not all shoot one gun clear thru.....to the OP....if total wt is not too much go for it...Roger

 

[WyleWD]

WD: Bring it to our local 500 meter ( 547 yards) benchrest varmint match's, fired on a range that has a reputation for some really bad winds & let's see what it does.

If you have access to the October-December 2011 issue of "Varmint Hunter" magazine, check out results of a nearby 1,3 & 400 yard BR Match, shown on page 187.

A total of 64 rifles in the match, one of which was a 6ppc, that placed 24 th. Pay particular attention to the 400 yard score total.

Top 3 wins were with 6BR's.

fd, you might want to look the pages before and after that over real close to see if you recognize anyone too. I'd like to shoot that one match over there but they won't allow factory PPC or BR chambers and rules is rules. I like all the fellas over there real well. WD

 

[turbokeen]

; )) i also hav a 6ppc with a 27" 1.3 dia 12 twist and i now use it to 500 yds F/open on mild days and its FUN
still using 68 flat bases

so no , im not suprised at all

 

[tenring]

A longer barrel is subject to a wider vibration node than a short, stiff barrel. But, of course, like anything else in this business, some 26" 6 PPC's do shoot well. We occasionally have a 6 ppc shooter at our 500 meter groundhog matches, and if the wind is not severe, they do OK.

 

[skeetlee]

I know this is an older post but because I’m thinking about trying this myself, I stumbled upon it.

I am thinking the longer 28” 6ppc might be a bit easier to tune with a barrel tuner? Maybe not but I’m thinking it might. If I don’t find this to be the case I know a fella with a few lathes and a saw.
Lee Gardner Precision

 

[jimmymac]

I know this is an older post but because I’m thinking about trying this myself, I stumbled upon it.

I am thinking the longer 28” 6ppc might be a bit easier to tune with a barrel tuner? Maybe not but I’m thinking it might. If I don’t find this to be the case I know a fella with a few lathes and a saw.
Lee Gardner Precision

Not 28”, but I am testing three 26” - 27” HV contour barrels at the moment. Over about 1000 shots I do not see these barrels giving up anything to a shorter barrel. These barrels just are not practical on a typical LV or HV gun, but with the gun I am shooting it does not matter. I have been using the same 7 ounce tuner on each of the barrels. They all shoot great.

 

[SGT. Slaughter]

When your done testing would you let us know you're results because I was interested in having a 6 ppc chambered in a 26" barrel 1.250 straight taper myself.
Thanks you Sir.

 

[Silo1616]

If 28" is good, this must be better:

 

[jimmymac]

When your done testing would you let us know you're results because I was interested in having a 6 ppc chambered in a 26" barrel 1.250 straight taper myself.
Thanks you Sir.

I am seeing no down side at this point. If I was interested in making weight, then I would feel differently. I am getting outstanding velocity and the accuracy is there. Testing has been at 300 yards. I am convinced enough that I will get a couple more long barrels chambered here soon.

 

[SGT. Slaughter]

Where are your velocities running with 26"/27 " barrel length?

 

[jimmymac]

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Where are your velocities running with 26"/27 " barrel length?

High node is yielding 3550 plus with good accuracy. I have almost touched 3600, but the accuracy was not there.

 

[JEFFPPC]

If there is enough barrel shank diameter to take the threads, it can be set-back numerous times, all the way to approx. 20". A heavy varmint contour, straight taper would be required, but if weight is a restriction, not a good idea. And no, I've never seen the 6ppc being used at the longer distances in our local BR match's. The majority of us use them for 300 yard maximum.

With 22 inch barrels in a PPC, 68 gr bullets, I have won lots of 500yd matches and set range records. Don't underestimate it.Thats in a 10.5 lb rifle I usually shot in heavy class against guns weighing twice as much....and more. A longer barrel with increased velocity within any weight limits would help in wind conditions. Makes sense to me.

 

[Will Henry]

I am considering an 8 twist PPC as a dedicated 300 meter rifle. I'll probably go with 26" WH