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Why the big 20s?

I added the remarks from post #12 where Lefty2506 shows a 22 CM with a 75 ELD going 3450.

It sounds like a pretty stout load but here it is at face value for the speed.
I don't know what powder is assumed, so I had to guess at least 44 grains for recoil purposes.
I don't step on my loads because it can be 70's on one day, and 100 the next...
I wonder if the pressure is redline?

It comes very close to the 55 Berger in elevation.

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That number (3450fps) comes from Hornaday's reloading data for a 24" barrel and is relatively conservative according to their data. Hornaday's data has it going up to 3600 fps with RL-26, and 3550 with several powders.


Vihtavuori's data is a lot more conservative, but they don't actually list the 75gr ELD for some reason. They go straight from the 70gr Nosler RDF to the 77gr Scenar and Match King.

https://www.vihtavuori.com/reloading-data/rifle-reloading/?cartridge=110

Peterson's data is somewhere in between. They have a couple of powders that put the 75gr ELD at around 3450 fps, but I don't see a barrel length listed so I'm assuming its a 24".


I have no experience with this cartridge so I'm just using data that I can find as a reference point. At first I thought it seemed odd that Hornady was giving such high numbers. Then I realized they were just trying to advertise for their new cartridge. After all, they are still saying that a 22 ARC shoots as flat as a 22-250... ;)

I can certainly understand the recoil advantage that the big 20s have. At a lower cost (probably not that important to most people trying to hit a water bottle at +1000 yds), and better wind deflection, it would just be a question of personal preference based on the priorities of the individual shooter.

To add another variable to the discussion, Hornady lists the velocity for the 62gr ELD-VT at 3850! If that were actually true, it would only have 18.64 MOA of elevation at 1k, and 7.49 MOA of wind (I left mine data at sea level for the sake of easy and consistent comparison so the 75gr had 19.07 moa of elevation and 6.47 moa of wind at 1k). A more realistic number for the 62gr is probably around 3550 fps which have 22.61 moa of elevation and 8.43 moa of wind which isn't nearly as impressive.
 
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For snickers and giggles I just plugged in the 75 ELDM with their highest RE26 charge from the pdf,
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Using the 47.7 grains and a COAL of 2.640 with a 24" 1:8 bbl, a case volume of 52.6 gr H2O.
3494 fps at 59.7 ksi.

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You guys are nuts with your barrel burners! $400 for the barrel plus $350? for the smithing? Add shipping and you’re over $800 for a “500 round barrel”. Let me be the voice of reason, here. Don’t do it! There! I said it. Now I can relax and go load for my new 22-250…….pistol…….that I had to have. o_O o_O
 
Who's paying $350 for smithing to re-barrel something that lasts less than 1,500 rounds??? That's why barrel nuts exist :)

So Hornady is only exaggerating their cartridges performance by 100 fps? That's probably just a rounding error. Honest mistake I'm sure.... lol
 
500 round barrel
Were did you come up with this?
On a 20-250 probably, but read 7315br post #2. Theres also ways to make barrels last longer, moly, and nitriding CM barrels with a BR case is what I will do next if I build another 20BRA.
A 22-250 isn't exactly easy on a barrel.
Will your 22-250 shoot like this with 55's at 665 yards? Its why I built a 20BRA.
 

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Were did you come up with this?
On a 20-250 probably, but read 7315br post #2. Theres also ways to make barrels last longer, moly, and nitriding CM barrels with a BR case is what I will do next if I build another 20BRA.
A 22-250 isn't exactly easy on a barrel
I WAS KIDDING! You should know I’m the last one to throw stones. I buy guns because I have brass I found at the range. ;)
They are lasers and fur friendly but completely impractical to me. I don’t care anything about a rifle that won’t shoot .250 with regularity, and with 500 rounds of barrel life on a giant 20, regular is out of the question. I can see myself chasing seating depth into the abyss.
 
Silly in what way?
Velocity loss, would a short barreled 204 be similar velocity to a 20 Br?

It will be suppressed all the time and to fit in my gun rack in the truck barrel will be 20” or shorter.

I guess what kind of velocity should I expect from say a 18” 20 br with a 40gr or 55gr
 
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