Why Not Savage?

[Larryh128]

Haven't heard about that. Thanks. Will look around to see what I can find out about it.

You can call Dean at Jard and he will answer any questions that you have about them. They are great people.

 

[Dgd6mm]

The Savage's I shoot either have Accutrigger or Rifle Basix trigger. A couple of the accutrigger's will lose their light adjustment and trip on bolt closure. During competition (f class) this is a pain in the butt open and close bolt gently while possibly losing your shooting condition. I've had this happen I think 3 times over the dozen years or so on a couple of the Savage rifles I own. At this present time I have about 12 Savage rifles. The Rifle Basix triggers, no issues at all, properly installed and tuned they are sweet.

I have two customs, 1 with a 2 oz. Jewell, 1 with a Trigger Tech Diamond straight trigger, both excellent triggers. The Jewell is a benchrest rifle, TT Diamond PRS rifle. I like my Savage's a lot, I'm growing fond of the Origin action with TT Diamond trigger.

Are you shooting these matches at your local club? If so what brand of equipment are you shooting? If not a Savage, are they besting you?

Don Dunlap

 

[Dgd6mm]

I am a 6mm freak.

 

[RKS]

I have two customs, 1 with a 2 oz. Jewell, 1 with a Trigger Tech Diamond straight trigger, both excellent triggers. The Jewell is a benchrest rifle, TT Diamond PRS rifle. I like my Savage's a lot, I'm growing fond of the Origin action with TT Diamond trigger.

Are you shooting these matches at your local club? If so what brand of equipment are you shooting? If not a Savage, are they besting you?

Don Dunlap

This season I am only shooting the 100-300 matches. The top gun in Factory class (which they let me shoot with an AR .224 since they don't have more than 2 AR shooters) is using a Savage 6.5 creedmoor 12 LRP...the big black ones.....actually there are about a dozen or so seen often at our range for different shoots. Savage 6 BR's often win in Hunter class for this same shoot. I am in 3rd place with my AR against all the bolt guns and have shot more X's than anyone else in the division. But I still can't beat the Savage yet in overall score

Next season I have a 6 BRI Custom for 1000 yard LG. One shooter is winning some Factory shoots at 1000 yards with his Savage 6.5 creedmoor.

The Savage 12 LRP usually wins the 500-1000 yard timed steel plate matches.

So yes, they are competitive and accurate. They do not win HG or LG matches at 1000- but then again, none of the top shooters are using them either.

My question for you is: were you able to install (can the average person install) the TT Diamond on your Savage or is a gunsmith needed?

 

[Dgd6mm]

The TT Diamond is on a Origin action which is a Remington footprint clone. This trigger will not install on a Savage. Savage's are limited for triggers in the aftermarket.

I know how capable a good gas gun can be a some distances.

Don Dunlap

 

[JFrank]

The new Jard Savage trigger solves all the trigger problems... Mine is 5 oz. and perfect.

Eric

Just my opinion jard doesn’t look much different than Rifle basix

 

[JFrank]

This season I am only shooting the 100-300 matches. The top gun in Factory class (which they let me shoot with an AR .224 since they don't have more than 2 AR shooters) is using a Savage 6.5 creedmoor 12 LRP...the big black ones.....actually there are about a dozen or so seen often at our range for different shoots. Savage 6 BR's often win in Hunter class for this same shoot. I am in 3rd place with my AR against all the bolt guns and have shot more X's than anyone else in the division. But I still can't beat the Savage yet in overall score

Next season I have a 6 BRI Custom for 1000 yard LG. One shooter is winning some Factory shoots at 1000 yards with his Savage 6.5 creedmoor.

The Savage 12 LRP usually wins the 500-1000 yard timed steel plate matches.

So yes, they are competitive and accurate. They do not win HG or LG matches at 1000- but then again, none of the top shooters are using them either.

My question for you is: were you able to install (can the average person install) the TT Diamond on your Savage or is a gunsmith needed?

Savage LRPV comes in a single shot 6 Br LP rb 26 inch barrel
Then of course the F class model is available.
I built my own

 

[RKS]

Has anyone reading this thread SOLD a newer Savage in the past few years, and if so why?

Not just if you had one gun that didn't really shoot good enough, or had some specific issue that you didn't want to fix, but if you found that overall Savage was not what you wanted and the reasons for it. It could be both of what I mentioned and more.

I'd actually like to see one of our club's top shooters use one and see what they could do with it compared to their $3-6K guns.

 

[JFrank]

It would shoot just fine, even better in the hand of a top shooter.
The difference between winning and second place can be so small of a margin there’s no benefit in not having the best equipment you can afford.
I have competed with this Savage a lot it shoots good

 

[RKS]

Savage LRPV comes in a single shot 6 Br LP rb 26 inch barrel
Then of course the F class model is available.
I built my own

Nice looking gun.

If I get one I still don't know which one. The 6.5 creedmoor's do really well and one shooter just shot a 1.498" group at 600 yards in a recent match. (they shoot 600 yard matches at a sister club)

I'd prefer a 6br but there are still a number of options on barrel length and I think 3 or so different factory stocks. I want it to remain factory class if I get one so it will have to keep its stock.

 

[eas1949]

Just my opinion jard doesn’t look much different than Rifle basix

The only part of the new Jard trigger that is Savage is the mounting pin. I checked mine at 5 oz with no creep and slammed the bolt home hard numerous times and the trigger remained set. I used it at the range this weekend and fired 50 with no issues.

It is a game changer for the Savage trigger.

You will love it

Eric

 

[RKS]

The only part of the new Jard trigger that is Savage is the mounting pin. I checked mine at 5 oz with no creep and slammed the bolt home hard numerous times and the trigger remained set. I used it at the range this weekend and fired 50 with no issues.

It is a game changer for the Savage trigger.

You will love it

Eric

What model and caliber do you have it on?

 

[JFrank]

Nice looking gun.

If I get one I still don't know which one. The 6.5 creedmoor's do really well and one shooter just shot a 1.498" group at 600 yards in a recent match. (they shoot 600 yard matches at a sister club)

I'd prefer a 6br but there are still a number of options on barrel length and I think 3 or so different factory stocks. I want it to remain factory class if I get one so it will have to keep its stock.

Will a Creedmoor do this

 

[RKS]

Will a Creedmoor do this

I don't know. I can only go by what others are doing with them. Looking at 2 guys who I know for sure using creedmoors at 600 yards (which is designated on top of your target) have shot 4.708 & 3.558 AGGS at 600 yards. Those are 5 shot groups on 4 different targets.

I'm only pointing out what I have some local info. on for comparison.

What is the length of your barrel?

 

[JFrank]

Mines 28
Check the equipment list at any Br event, if you see a Creedmoor in the top 10 it’s rare

 

[RKS]

Mines 28
Check the equipment list at any Br event, if you see a Creedmoor in the top 10 it’s rare

If you had a choice between starting with a 12 Fclass (unbalanced heavy front end with 30" barrel), 12 benchrest(less unbalanced with 29" barrel but not a flat bottom stock), 12 lrpv(more balanced with 26" barrel but not a target trigger) which would it be and why- briefly?

Just picking your brain here.

 

[eas1949]

What model and caliber do you have it on?

Savage 12BR stock 6mm BRA, Brux

 

[JFrank]

If you had a choice between starting with a 12 Fclass (unbalanced heavy front end with 30" barrel), 12 benchrest(less unbalanced with 29" barrel but not a flat bottom stock), 12 lrpv(more balanced with 26" barrel but not a target trigger) which would it be and why- briefly?

Just picking your brain here.

Remington 700

 

[SavageMark]

At our range Savage 6.5's and 6 BR's are as competitive as any "Custom" gun at 100-300 yard matches and at least one scored a sub-4" 5 shot group at 1000 yards.

I believe most "purists" to 1000 yard shooting would always point to individual component quality as a benefit of a custom gun over a Savage. For a fraction of the cost of a "custom" rifle build would the Savage not be a good choice if your club has a Hunter/Factory class for 1000 yards? (A Savage would be in the Hunter class at our range if it has a custom barrel on it.)

Is there something about the various 6mm Savages that I'm missing on why they are not highly recommended?

I do see quite a few listings of people trying to get rid of them but never read much on why. I do not own one.

I'm only looking for generalized responses on why someone might or might not recommend a Savage for 1000 yard shooting- not to start an argument between two possible camps.

Hi !

I own 3 rifles , All Savages . In my humble opinion , you can’t beat them for the money . I’ve shot 2 informal F class competitions . A 500 yard with a 399 24x, and a 300 yard with a 400 28x. At the 300 yard I was only 2 Xs behind the winner . For me they work great . I did put Shilens on them .

Mark

 

[SavageMark]

Just my opinion jard doesn’t look much different than Rifle basix

I bought a Jard trigger . It’s now sitting in my junk pile . You have to remove a bunch of material in your stock to get it to fit . Wasn’t happy about that !